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On more than 30 occasions, the United Nations Assembly has discussed the blockade against Cuba, which costs the island 5 billion dollars annually, according to some estimates. Every year the resolution is proposed and the whole world, through the vote of the absolute majority of the member countries of the United Nations General Assembly, has condemned the imperialist attitude of the United States towards Cuba.

edit: result of the vote: https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/system/cache/media_attachments/files/113/398/372/180/881/996/original/82c4d1f509e933fa.jpg

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 122 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Every year the resolution is proposed and the whole world, through the vote of the absolute majority of the member countries of the United Nations General Assembly, has condemned the imperialist attitude of the United States towards Cuba.

And just like every year, the vote will do nothing.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (7 children)

it'll add up to a hell of a lot of justified reparations when the US backs down.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

Why is it normalized that one country can block/embargo/complicate/whatever-you-want-to-call-it another country to the point of severely affecting the lives of millions of people .... for what? because one country disagrees with the politics of another country?

If countries were able to do that, there would be no trade anywhere in the world.

Yet it's been completely normalized for the past six decades between the US and Cuba.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the international order is based on economic and military might, not any sort of higher ideal or codified rules.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So jungle rules then ..... ooga booga ... just with better vocabulary.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well... Yeah. Who do you think would enforce any "rules"? And how would they?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If that same thought or sentiment grows around the world ..... then why have a UN if its just treated as a play toy by the ones with the biggest guns?

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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

If only UN wasn't completely useless to the point of not doing anything

The UN is, like marginally more effective than the League of Nations was. Which is to say: nearly completely meaningless.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

What would it do? And how would it enforce its decisions?

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Countries have complicated trade for centuries. Free trade is a modern exception, not the historical rule.

And in principle, countries have as much right to restrict trade with Cuba as they do with Russia and Israel. It's the same principle that allows people to call for boycotts of Amazon and Starbucks. All of these things can affect the lives of millions, in an effort to bring about political change.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)
[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Some of those have been decommissioned. I know for sure the first one in the second column has, as I was stationed in that one.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And the bonhomme Richard basically got arsoned in port. The enterprise is definitely out of it since 2017, this graphics full of bs.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'd love to find a more up-to-date version, if you know of one.

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[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The US also has about 750 military bases (not including black sites) scattered across 80 countries around the world

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is more countries with CVs than i thought. Also Brazil and Thailand? I wasn't aware they had any sizeable navy to begin with.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago

Yes, although having the ship is only part of it. What the diagram can't really show is that the US also has a global logistics system which supplies the carriers and their accompanying battle groups when they deploy to other side of the planet. That system has been decades in the making, it's not something you can just buy, it requires a crazy amount of planning and organization.

I doubt the US could deploy every carrier effectively, but it can certainly put multiple battle groups at sea simultaneously and keep them there for a long time.

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[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

It isn't that it's normalized. It is simply that no one can do anything about it. So, they voice their disagreement.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd rather russia had just embargoed Ukraine, for the 2014 "revolution" instead of invading. And that China embargo Taiwan instead of invading if that ever comes to pass. Don't you? It's not even a siege as some people are portraying it, there are no secondary sanctions.

That said, I'd rather the embargo were lifted and relations were normalized, maybe Cuba would turn into a sort of Vietnam, but that would take more than just the US lifting restrictions, it would take reform on Cuba's part as well. Even China agrees that Cuba needs market reforms e.g. https://www.diariolasamericas.com/america-latina/china-rompe-acuerdos-comerciales-cuba-ya-no-es-el-sugar-daddy-del-regimen-n5365604 and won't invest in a dying economy unless they change, same as the US.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

The US military is in 75% of the countries on earth but it's definitely not the largest empire the world has ever seen * wink wink *

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Legalize the import of Cuban cigars, and I will personally bring Cuba back into an age of prosperity.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can bring them back in your luggage - limit is maybe 100 cigars or $1000 worth. Something like that.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm 99% certain Trump administration put the kibosh on that. At least that was what I was told when I traveled out of country in 2023, and wanted to see if I could bring some back.

In 2016, the Obama administration eased some restrictions, allowing U.S. travelers to bring Cuban cigars into the country for personal use. However, this was short-lived. In 2020, the Trump administration re-imposed strict regulations, re-banning Cuban cigars—whether bought in Cuba or through third countries. Current Regulations:

As of now, it is illegal to import Cuban cigars into the U.S. This includes bringing cigars bought in other countries that originated from Cuba. Any attempt to bring Cuban cigars into the U.S. can result in serious legal consequences, including confiscation and potential fines.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I quit smoking but I'd gladly have a puff.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The thing I love about Cubans is the smell. The US is spoiled with a wonderful selection of great Nicaraguan and Dominican cigars that for all intents and purposes beat out Cubans. But Cuban cigars have a very particular smell that I can't get over.

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

We were in Cuba one year when they had the vote. I had never heard of it, but it was all over the news there so i thought it actually meant something.

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