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Should Donald Trump fail a second time to be re-elected he faces the very real possibility of jail time and massive financial penalties due to the sheer volume of criminal cases and civil lawsuits that are on hold until after the election.

That is the opinion of Syracuse University law professor Greg Germain who explained in an interview with Newsweek that the former president's only path to get out from under the federal cases he now faces is to beat Vice President Kamala Harris in less than two weeks and then push the Department of Justice to drop the cases filed against him.

As Germain stated, the multiple federal cases Trump is facing are solid and his only path to victory may be having them shut down.

Newsweek source: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-legal-cases-georgia-washington-florida-new-york-stormy-daniels-chutkan-cannon-1974406

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[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How many times over the last 4 years have I been told "Oh, they really got him now!" Do any wealthy politicians face consequences for the shady stuff they do( I include democrats in this category)?

And then I think about George Floyd who tried to buy a pack of smokes with a phony $20, and possibly didn't even know it was counterfeit, but was killed shortly thereafter.

This is not the America I want

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, how is being ahead in the polls, with an inherent electoral college advantage, a Congress that's willing to bend the rules and a supreme court that thinks laws can just be changed depending on the court case 'having your back against the wall'?

Even if he loses the election he's still going to be able to pay lawyers to keep him out of jail until he ~~chokes on a Big Mac~~ dies of natural causes.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Four out of the past eleven governors of Illinois did prison time. I think most of those were Democrats.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Well that's something I suppose.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He has a conviction in one case and is awaiting sentencing. The system has been moving during those 4 years.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The system has been ~~moving~~ intentionally hamstrung at every opportunity by judges he picked during his first term, to give him a chance to be reelected before he is sentenced during those 4 years.

It has been maddening watching Teflon Trump dodge and evade sentencing, by blatantly cheating the system using pawns he installed.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's not, but if you follow federal cases much, this sort of thing is normal. Takes ages to get anything done. Doubly so because when you're moving on a major figure, the method is to hit the low level people, give them plea deals to turn them against the people above them, and so on. Trump is at the top of that pyramid of cases. You couldn't get to him before going through the rest. This particularly affects the Jan 6 case.

One big thing that goes beyond Trump is the size of the federal bench. With number of cases judges are seeing, we could easily quadruple the size to bring caseload down to something reasonable. This is only going to get worse with the destruction of Chevron Deference, which opens the floodgates to companies suing to shut down federal regulators.

This also has a more direct effect on Trump. First, it would undo all the bench stuffing he did in the lower federal courts. Second, IIRC, if he files something in the southern district of Florida, he has a out of three chance getting Aileen Cannon. Quadruple everything, and that becomes one in twelve.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (53 children)

Why exactly are they on hold until the election? Shouldn’t it be like really important to determine if he’s guilty before they crown him?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Corruption, pure and simple corruption.

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

The humans who implement the judicial system are likely fearful of the purge that would come following a Trump victory.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I want to see that orange turd locked up as much as any rational levelheaded person, but my fear is that it would set a dangerous precedent to convict and jail during an election.

Because all the batshit bonkers right-wingers in politics would use it as a baseline to file court cases against any of their political opponents during election season, find some Uber corrupt right-winger judge and miraculously the only ones left on ballots are the repubs

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 179 points 4 days ago (14 children)

criminal cases and civil lawsuits that are on hold until after the election.

Why are they on hold? It's insane it's taken so long to push those cases, and it's even more insane if they are on hold.
Trump is a normal citizen, and shouldn't enjoy special privileges.

Except USA is no-longer a country of law, it's a corrupt oligarchy.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 52 points 4 days ago

Always has been but normal people just finally starting to understand how bad it really is.

Modern oligarchs dont even pretend anymore and they dont have since peasants are fighting each. They dont care who wins elections for the most part as they will mostly get what they want either way

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

Except USA is no-longer a country of law, it's a corrupt oligarchy.

it always has been lol originally only white property owners could vote

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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

...and the soap is on the floor

[–] grue@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

He should already have been in prison by now!

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I for one am livid that I'll have to wait until after the election to see the disappointing wrist slaps he might get from whichever cases don't get sabotaged by sympathetic judges.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

all thats needed to make that image sweeter is a blindfold, a cigarette, and a line of 9 infantrymen with rifles loaded and ready

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Trump, his back against the wall.

The Tamarian phrase for important things that need to happen but won't happen in time.

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