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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 92 points 1 day ago (12 children)

"Are you 15 or more years old? Y/N"

There, that fixed the problem.

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

True but would you prefer weak enforcement or strong enforcement?
Strong enforcement would likely involve the government having better records of your browsing habits.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (8 children)

IIRC Norway has an actual Nat ID system, so assuming they develop a workable API for it ðis could actually be implemented quite easily.

Preventing kids stealing ðeir parents' IDs to open accounts anyway will be ð actual challenge.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 31 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Is there a reason that you use some character (I'm afraid I don't know the name of it) wherever you would otherwise use "th"? I can't guess if it's some kind of technical issue with federated text, something from a different language you're incorporating, or one of those "I think we should add x symbol to the language so I'll use it to draw attention to the effort" deals, like with the people that use the combined !? symbols whenever both are relevant at once.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a thorn, a letter making a th sound. Still in use in Icelandic, I think. In English, it's archaic at best.

Fun fact, when it fell out of use, the letter Y was used to replace it for a while. So when you see something saying "ye olde", verbally it's still "the old".

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

I actually always wondered about the y in old texts. Thanks!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

What ð heck are are you talking about, it looks normal. To me. Maybe ðeres someðing wrong wið your computer.

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I’m probably doing exactly what they want here (e.g. having a conversation about it), but that letter is called “Eth” and was the Old English way of spelling the “th” sound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eth

A number of linguistic buffs want to bring it back to the modern English alphabet.

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[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

So then the kids will just use a VPN

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[–] sandbox@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

If anything, it would be far better to ban people above a certain age from social media. I’ve seen far more older people get sucked in by online misinformation and become extreme conspiracy theorists than kids.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 18 points 21 hours ago (9 children)

It's not the government's job to tell adults to not partake in self-harm. Kids don't know better.

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[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

How do they define what a social media is?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

And most importantly: How would they enforce that? Kids have been lying about their ages since the dawn of internet.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they really need to.

Laws are often just an acknowledgement of a society's expectation.

"We've all decided that kids under 15 using social isn't great."

The fact that this law exists makes it infinitely b easier for parents to establish and maintain rules in their household, because peer pressure is minimised.

Yes, some kids will still use social before they're 15. Perhaps most kids. However, I think harmfully excessive use will be minimised.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Porn sites have age limits, we know this doesn't mean shit. No middleschooler gets condemned for watching porn.

The enforcing part is where this is likely to get shitty. Once they establish this as a law they maybe will try and sue companies that don't provide an age check on their websites. Now if that is possible I am not sure, seeing as many of those are having HQs in Ireland or Netherlands due to tax reasons.

But if that is successful it would mean they actually have to check everyone's age by some means, which means collecting IDs. Which definitely is bad news for users, we all know that data won't be securely stored or deleted.

Not sure how else this could go down.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Would probably require the sites to use Bank ID during signups from Norway.

Bank ID is a national system for confirming identity.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds dystopian as fuck. Also, they can just pretend they're not from Norway.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Now Meta not only knows your name and where you live and your darkest secrets but your legal ID too — fun!

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Not saying you might be right, but this could be solved with a simple API that returns yes/no for the age check, without providing additional information.

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[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Probably networks where users post personal data in conjunction with chat features. Obviously, Wikipedia is not social media in this regard and neither is a mailing list.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I really dislike this sort of daddy over reach but it seems like this is the only way to make corpos get real about enforcement.

This would result needing to provide ID to use normie social media?

How would this even work globally and on places like fediverse tho?

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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

We shouldn't blocked the social media, they are pure shit, don't get me wrong, but we should only educate correctly the people to show them how bad it is

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

With that logic we should give everyone a nuclear bomb and teach them not to press the button. Let's see how that works out.

Big tegh companies spend billions on ways to influence your behaviour, making it even difficult for adults to not fall for their traps, let alone kids with still very much underdeveloped brains. Just look at all the stupid things you had done when you were a kid.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 20 hours ago

What?! Are you implying the parents should educate their kids better? How dare you!?

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