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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, look at this guy, trying to use science and facts to disprove my fairytale. What a joke!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, No amount of evidence will cut through the fog of wilful ignorance here.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

WERE YOU THERE TO SEE IT???? - The next moronic rebuttal

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[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 15 hours ago

In the begining, was uranium, and the uranium was not stable?

[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Lead 204 is entirely primordial and the other isotopes found on earth would be found at roughly the same concentration were all of the lead on earth primordial. It's the excess ratios of the other isotopes of lead that can be attributed to radioactive decay. That is a substantial proportion of the lead on earth, but to say the "existence of lead" is proof of the age of the earth is entirely incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_lead

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

I had a dude come up to me at the reference desk and tell me that the earth can’t be billions (he said trillions, lol) of years old because erosion from the Mississippi River would make it wider and deeper than it is. I pulled up some info including the idea that the Mississippi was something that came about more recently because of plate shifting, etc and he just said, "Nah."

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 18 hours ago

The correct answer would have been: "Why should I? You're an idiot."

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I mean, the existence of lead doesn't necessarily prove the age of the earth so much as that those elements have existed for that long.

HOWEVER -- you're basically guaranteed to find lead in uranium deposits found around the earth, and the ratio of lead/uranium is how we calculated the 4.6 billion years.

Uranium is formed in Neutron stars or Supernova, so at the very least - the uranium found on earth itself is 4.6 billion years old. Whether "Earth" was "Earth" back then, who knows. This could be pre-moon? Could be before the earth even cooled down to have a solid outer layer? So the estimate is bound to be off by a little...

Just not by 4.5 billion years.

I'm pretty sure just soap has been around for more than 4.5k years and that means civilization too. So even if you do some backflips in justification here, there's no way you get 4k.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There’s bread from 14,000 years ago

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago

Look I don't like them either, but you can't refer to crusty bishops that way

[–] Cutecity@hexbear.net 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This proof is partial though. This assumes there is only 1 way of obtaining lead. What if lead appeared from fusion in stars younger than that.

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[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

There's evidence of human civilization and agriculture going back at least 10,000 years. You have to be extremely willfully ignorant to think the earth is only 4,000 years old. Hell the pyramid of Giza is older than that.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 12 hours ago

The craziest thing is new archeological discoveries keep pushing modern humans further and further back into pre-history. Almost makes me wonder if we'll come full circle and go "yeah humans did in fact coexist with dinosaurs, and here's proof at least one rode one" /hj

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