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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

hahahahahah does anyone really think microsoft cares? their money is in business with all the big players already deploying 11 at least in modest amounts.

nothing stopped them when windows7 was still functional and they were pushing the tpm requirement, i dont see a difference here.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

Their money is now in azure. Os and app suites are a declining business, but they help with azure lock in.

[–] Upsidedownturtle@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'd guess that major UI revisions are a big reason for average users. People don't like having to relearn how to do something or find a setting. If M$ implemented a legacy UI setting that by and large mimicked the interface and controls in W10 they'd clear a major hurdle preventing less technologically inclined users from upgrading.

[–] krippix@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago

My guess is that the average user doesn't care at all and just clicks away update notifications because they are annoyed by them

[–] arscynic@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago

“On Windows 10 PCs without an ESU subscription, however, any security flaws found from that day forward will remain unpatched, making those PCs increasingly vulnerable to online attacks.”

“Windows unpatched […] increasingly vulnerable to online attacks” is a facetious statement since the operating system is inherently malware.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Lots of people moving to Linux over Win11 anyway.

[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, right. 🙄

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

A lot do myself included. But not enough to matter. Most ordinary Windows users don't even know what Linux is or understand why they should care.

[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Exactly - not enough to matter so not a lot.

Enthusiasts willing to get out of their comfort zone in whatever topic we choose are rare like kryptonite. The fact that you know 10 people, or a 1000 is by no means a lot considering the number of PC users.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Bring Windows 12. Windows 11 is terrible.

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

My question is this: Do Microsoft ship crap-infested versions to people who could make their lives uncomfortable, like, say, intelligence agencies, or do those agencies take a crap-infested version and have their IT security strip all the crap out?

Because if I was in charge of an intelligence agency I'd be asking - with dangerous smile - for the crap-free version, turn IT loose on it anyway and then be, shall we say, horribly invasive to Microsoft if there's anything still left in it.

... and if I wanted Windows, I'd want whatever the end result of that is.

On the other hand, maybe this has already happened and that "horrible invasion" is the cause of all the spyware crap in the consumer release.

Sigh.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago

Both. The enterprise edition has less crap, but most big companies will use custom images and group policy to decrapify it further. I do the same thing at home since I used to be the guy doing it at work. I don't get any of the copilot or recall bullshit.

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[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Guys, is it the beginning downfall of Windows after October 24, 2025? 🤔

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 29 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I wish.

There might be a small uptick of new Linux installs, but MS will just power on and the vast majority of Windows users will remain in that abusive relationship. :sigh:

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah. People just don't make the effort to "learn a new OS".

They get crazy if the icons are in some other place than they are used to on Windows.

Let's see the facts here ppl.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It has more to do with corporations than individuals. Microsoft doesn't pay the bills from great grandma Ethel's Windows license, they have a corporate revenue stream they need to keep locked in.

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Yes the real money is in corporations, of course. And large companies won't change anytime soon.

But let's face it, as i was refering on a individual level, is any of your non tech savy family and friends install an other OS other over Windows?

I find that rather hard to believe.

People are creatures of habit.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Are you going to pay for retraining 30,000 employees?

Or to make all your software work on Linux?

Autocad?

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Realistically, there are probably half of office workstations, maybe more, where the business users who use them can do everything they need through a browser.

In that sense most stuff already works on Linux, including basic productivity software, email and calendaring, real time communications through Slack or Teams or whatever.

More specialized jobs might need more specialized software, but for many workers they don't need that.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Less than half. A good portion of those office workers rely on Office macros and other bullshit that doesn't run in the web version.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Unless they ditch Office for LibreOffice or OpenOffice

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

No, not me.

I didn't even mentioned Linux, did I? Can be MacOS or FreeBSD.

I guess you assumed I did since its the default answer to suggest Linux as Windows is a shitshow. However, I realize that ordinary people won't change a thing. They will just use the OS that came installed with the computer. That's (windows) 99 % of all computers sold.

And yes, I do use Linux but I'm tech savy and a realist about the Windows situation.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 16 points 18 hours ago
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