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[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Go to your favorite content creators and ask them to create a profile on Bluesky. If you don't ask them, how are they supposed to know?

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm still on the fence about that...I think it'd make more sense for many to drop social media and opt for their own site with RSS feeds. A lot of social media for some is little more than a noisier RSS reader. Sometimes even literally with those with auto-playing videos. 😬

[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

They should know they have options at least. Then they can make the decision for themselves.

[–] Yes_Man@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I run a few bots on Bluesky and absently check it occasionally on a personal account. Anecdotally I can say that I'm seeing a lot more engagement even just over the last week.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm on Bluesky. I have seen a drama increase in followers in the last few days since Twitter let blocked people see content that were blocked from.

It's a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

I had to decide if I was going to Mastodon or Bluesky. I picked Bluesky because after reading Mastodon's integration problems with itself I wanted nothing to do with it. It couldn't scale unless each instance played nice and in the years since it went live they had refused to do that and showed no signs of even moving in that direction.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

I have seen a drama increase in followers

If there's one thing a social media site loves, its a drama increase.

It’s a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

Honestly, more than anything, it feels like an indictment of Threads. That was supposed to be the big party spot for creatives, journalists, and D-list celebrities following the burn out of Twitter. But modern Threads just feels like the worst kind of Hype-House crossbred with LinkedIn.

BlueSky feels a lot more like a vintage '00s social media site, which is all people really wanted. Hope it survives its own popularity better than Twitter did. But for now, life is good.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What are the Mastadon Integration problems?

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 12 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure they're referring to the concept of defederation and how that can splinter the platform.

Bluesky is ""federated"" in largely the same ways as Mastodon, but there's basically one and only one instance anyone cares about. The federation capability is just lip service to the minority of dorks like us who care.

To the vast majority of Twitter refugees, federation as a concept is not a feature, it's an irritation.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

an irritation

I get it, hearing about federation is the worst part of this site . Y'all sound like coinbros "here's the most inefficient storage method, lets call it something easy to remember and sell it as a feature!"

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

You could just stay on the biggest mastadon instance and not care about anything. Wouldn't be too different than just using bluesky.

Preferring handcuffs because it's more seemless sounds like a terrible mindset

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Preferring handcuffs because it’s more seemless

They're not handcuffs. You can always log off.

But the big appeal of BlueSky is the initialization of the interface. It defaults you to "Following" rather than "Discover" and isn't jamming a ton of ads in your feed. There's basically no algorithm. Its a very basic service, rather than an engineered mess. More akin to Facebook or Twitter from back in the '00s, before monetization ruined them.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Partly. Except the time different Mastodon instances were not federated much or at all. If you wanted to go follow someone on Mastodon you had to know the exact server they were on. In an environment like Reddit and Lemmy where you're there for the communities instead of the people that isn't an issue. But if you want to go follow some specific podcaster you need to know the instance because there's no guarantee that whatever instance you happen upon is going to be joined up with the one there on.

Everyone was busy running their own servers and not trying to tie everything together. It was a thing that could be done but a thing not enough were doing.

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds worse than I thought it was. I just assumed Mastodon was like Lemmy, where every instance federates with every other instance basically by default and there's only some high-profile defed exceptions.

A Fediverse where federations are opt-in instead of opt-out sounds like actual hell. Yeah, more control to instances, hooray, but far less seamless usability for people. The only people you will attract with that model are the ones who think having upwards of seven alts for being in seven different communities isn't remotely strange or cumbersome. That, and/or self-hosting your own individual instances. Neither of these describe the behavior of the vast majority of Internet users who want to sign up on a platform that just works with one account that can see and interact with everything.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It sounds like an asocial network - something for me finally, perhaps :)

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Microw@lemm.ee 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Theoretically, yes. Practically, the way their model is set up, it costs a lot to host a federated server so no one is doing it.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wait really? I thought cost were relatively low since a lot of people do it themselves

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

What you see on Bluesky is a lot of people using their own domains for their handles. They are not hosting their own instances though, it's only their identities. Their connection to the AT protocol still goes through the central Bluesky server.

[–] timconspicuous@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 minutes ago

If we're talking about self-hosting your own personal data storage (PDS), a few hundred people are doing that, here is a list. Apparently a Raspberry Pi is sufficient to host a PDS.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

lot of people using their own domains for their handles. They are not hosting their own instances

This is something the AT Protocol does well. Your identity is portable and can be separate from the instance you use.

In theory, you can move to a different instance but keep your handle the same. There's no way to do that with ActivityPub. If you move to a new Lemmy or Mastodon server, you have to change your username to one at the instance's domain.

[–] John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Taking a page out of Valves book.

Doing nothing and let the competition drive customers your way.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 34 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

Not really what Valve did. Valve kept doing cool things that benefit the customer, while the competition actively drove them away.

I don't follow social media. Is BlueSky feature rich and only getting better?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest thing that valve did that kept them in everyone's good graces is that steam's core functionality hasn't had any major changes in years. Dare I say, more than a decade.

It's a platform where you buy games, download them, and play them.

In the early days you still had to deal with all the bullshit, including third party launcher installs and crap to get things going, and over time, valve simplified all of that, making it easier than ever to take advantage of the core function of steam: buying, downloading, and playing games.

Literally the only improvement I can absolutely, positively credit them for, is making that entire process, easier, simpler, and quicker, than ever.

Sure, you can chat to people, track achievements, comment on your profile, comment on your friends profiles, buy and sell cosmetics on the market thing, even voice chat and I think they have a way you can stream your game to friends.... Not sure on that last one.

It's like Facebook, FB marketplace, FB messenger, discord, Twitter... And a bunch of other services, all huddled together to make a bastard child with the entire PC video game industry.... That's steam.

But the core mechanic that was always the main reason why steam was great, remains the same.

[–] Randomguy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think you might be underselling how important things like the steam workshop and steam's multiplayer support are.

Games like Starbound or Don't Starve benefit a lot from the workshop.

While insert any party game gains a lot out of steam's multiplayer support and friend list.

Also, while I don't use Linux myself, Steam is one of the main reasons why Linux Gaming is a thing.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't mean to, I wasn't exactly looking at a comprehensive list of steam features when I wrote that. I'm sure I missed several of steam's very good features from what I listed.

My main point was, and still is, that the core thing that made steam stand out, has more or less stayed the same throughout its existence. You log in, buy, download, and launch games right from one really easy to use program, it manages all the particulars about product keys and saves, etc. So you can focus on playing the game rather than trying to get the game running.

There's a ton of other really good features that steam and valve in general have introduced, and I'm not trying to diminish the impact of those things.

While other games stores are pulling crap like exclusives to their platform, and requiring dumb shit like invasive spyware "anti-cheating" rootkits, steam has kept the basic formula the same, and doesn't restrict any major publisher from deploying something on their platform. Other developers will still delay making their games available on steam for one reason or another, but steam has been fairly neutral in what's published.

I am aware of some exceptions, so I'm not going to say it's entirely universal that anyone can publish anything to steam, but it's fairly rare that steam is preventing a game from being available on the platform.

That core purpose of steam has always been good. All the other stuff is almost always also good, but the core purpose of having steam installed is the same, or better then, when steam was first released.

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[–] tikimusic@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's the same Bluesky that Dorsey abandoned.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 49 minutes ago

I wonder why though

[–] uis@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 155 points 1 day ago (10 children)

we've been seeing these "twitter's in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!" headlines for how many years now?

yet people refuse to just delete it

i can't wait for the day i can go a full 24 hours without twitter shit showing up on every feed

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm the only person who never signed up for Twitter.

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