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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 185 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

People either don't seem to understand, or are pretending not to understand for political purposes, that Harris has a very thin line to toe until the election. If she says anything strongly in either way regarding Israel/Palestine, she will lose.

Anyone telling you that she is worse than Trump on the issue is a goddamn liar

Exactly this.

People are upset because of the fine line she has to walk, but I have always figured that once she wins the election she'd do the right thing, and this event makes me believe I'm right to have faith.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Harris started her political career by condemning Obama for not perfectly obeying Israel. She votes for Israel every time. She even tells a story how she planted trees for Israel as a child.

The only fine line she is trying to walk is keeping her pro-Palestine voters while doing everything Israel is asking of her.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The only fine line she is trying to walk is keeping her pro-Palestine voters while doing everything Israel is asking of her.

I'm curious what you think Israel is asking of the Vice President of the United States? What is it that you think the VP does?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

No one is asking her to do anything as VP, this person is saying harris is committed to enabling israel's genocide and has a history of supporting israel unconditionally. we want her to commit to upholding american laws around not supplying arms genocidal regimes as president; which israel categorically is currently. literally every organization that has investigated israeli conduct in Gaza and now Lebanon has come to the same conclusion. The UN, WHO, our own internal analysis.

They've gone way past self defense and managed to kill more of the hostages than hamas has.

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[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I’m curious what you think Israel is asking of the Vice President of the United States? What is it that you think the VP does?

She's a candidate talking about what she'll do in her term. Stop playing dumb.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 44 points 6 days ago (3 children)

She might just lose for not saying anything strongly anyway.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Yeah, but then centrists will get the right wing policies they want and get to blame the left for it.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 days ago

And get to fund raise off it

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[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Trump supporters always underreport in polls. She's not holding her own in the swing states. Harris is going to lose and usher in fascism and the end of the republic, all so she can take some sweet, sweet far-right-wing foreign government bribes.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

She might... That would suck.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If centrists don't like that they don't get 100% of everything they want, in this case unconditional support for genocide, they can vote blue no matter who.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I'm not sure you even understood my comment. And yet at least 10 other people read this and were like "yup, that sounds right."

Suspect.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People generally have really poor reading comprehension. I've been surprised by how bad it is here on lemmy. I've had folks argue against things not even remotely close to what was said, and then other morons will come along to dogpile.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

people are scanning, it happens, done it myself. the problem is people are so scared of harris losing they're attacking people who have no interest in supporting harris as a result of this issue and think that will somehow get them to vote harris. shrug

if harris loses she loses and thats on her. she wants to play the law and order candidate while simultaneously not committing to upholding the laws we have on the books and enabling a genocide well thats on her.

Can't help that shes committing the same errors of judgement that biden did and we didn't support him either after he started breaking strikes and enabling genocide.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

the problem is people are so scared of harris losing they’re attacking people who have no interest in supporting harris as a result of this issue and think that will someone get them to vote harris. shrug

The people you describe attack Harris voters too. They attack anyone with misgivings about genocide support.

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[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 91 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

Aaaaaaaaaand immediately gets called antisemitic...jesus christ these people...

Guess what Israel? Semites include Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, and Phoenicians. So you're being antisemitic by killing all of them!

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 57 points 6 days ago

"Many, including myself, always suspected that she held this warped, antisemitic view of Israel’s self-defense against Hamas barbarism. But the cat is now out of the bag,” he said to the US outlet on Saturday.

“Her view is as ignorant as it is malign. … To give credence publicly to this disgusting blood libel disqualifies Harris from holding any public office, let alone the presidency,” he added." (He then did a little happy jig and said to himself "we got 'er! Antisemitic married to a Jew, people are too dumb to realize I'm a lying sack of shit!")

Heeeeereeee we go with this bullshit...

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"To give credence publicly to this disgusting blood libel disqualifies Harris from holding any public office, let alone the presidency"

Is it? 🤔

Does that mean people under criminal charges should be disqualified as well, right?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 6 days ago

I guess that only leaves that other anti semite, Dr Jill Stein.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Harris lifts up the voice of the anti-Zionists ^by^ ^having^ ^them^ ^escorted^ ^away^ ^by^ ^security^

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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago

Seems a bit of a stretch that that was her intention.

[–] tostos@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Just say it

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

We all know she would never actually do that.

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