61
"I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."
this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2024
61 points (93.0% liked)
Technology
1261 readers
367 users here now
Which posts fit here?
Anything that is at least tangentially connected to the technology, social media platforms, informational technologies and tech policy.
Rules
1. English only
Title and associated content has to be in English.
2. Use original link
Post URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
3. Respectful communication
All communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. Inclusivity
Everyone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacks
Any kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangents
Stay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may apply
If something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.
Companion communities
!globalnews@lemmy.zip
!interestingshare@lemmy.zip
Icon attribution | Banner attribution
founded 11 months ago
MODERATORS
Researchers at a California-based sleep startup claim it's possible to communicate with others while dreaming.
Is there some published article in a respected peer reviewed scientific journal?
If not, this may as well be the typical startup "fake it until you make it (or disappear)".
the lucid dreaming communication experiment itself is decades old now, people in lucid dreams have communicated to conscious scientists by moving their eyes in patterns to communicate with sleep scientists talking to the dreamer or playing sounds for them while in a lucid dream state to indicate the dreamers' awareness and understanding of stimulus from the waking world.
The "first" they're talking about is an extension of that phenomen, which is cool in its own right.
heres a recent article about similar sleep studies:
https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-entered-peoples-dreams-and-got-them-talking
Interesting, but I didn't see a relation with the start up. Are they not really the first then?
No, the proof has been established for decades.
[citation needed]
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6877973/
This is the original study from 1983, where conscious eye movements during REM sleep were used to communicate to the researchers while sleeping.
Proving for the first time that communication during sleep is possible, 4 decades ago.
If it is really possible to reliably train oneself to lucid dream, that's probably as far as it should go... Beyond there lies madness
Literally
Ideal: "Oh wow! I could hang out with friends in my dreams! Conversations on the moon!!"
Reality: "You’re late"
Bonus: "We don't have to pay them anything because they're not physically at work!"
Yikes
While no doubt fascinating, it is also a bit frightening. The idea of commercializing dreams sounds ripe for misuse and if we're being force-fed content even while we are sleeping, when will we ever be able to truly unplug and get any actual rest?
What do you think the business founder has in mind when they say this is revolutionary? Like what regular use could this be put to?
Advertising to you in your dreams.
Maybe more working hours for office workers. Everyone can do another 8 hours of lucid night shift.
armies of half asleep prisoners, remote controlling robotic soldiers, thinking it a sweet video game.
Literally Hypnospace Outlaw.
Edit: Dreamsettler can't come soon enough.
"Timecards... Timecards... Remember to fill out your timecards"
We need a remake of dreamscape now
You mean Nightmare on Elm Street
Such an underrated movie
Pretty cool article. Thanks for sharing.
Visualize your dream
Record it in the present tense
Put it into a permanent form
If you persist in your efforts
You can achieve dream control
It also helps to start doing reality checks while awake such that they become habitual enough to occur while dreaming. You want to specifically check things that tend to be vulnerable to dream logic like clocks or books because they'll often change if you look away and check / read them a second time.
Very true. However, my comment was from a song called Silent Lucidity.
Gorgeous song if you’ve never heard it. It’s all about lucid dreaming.