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!rcv@ponder.cat

Any third party that's telling you to vote for them under FPTP, but isn't heavily promoting RCV to fix the system, isn't trying to win. They're trying to spoil the FPTP election.

RCV is already law in a surprisingly large number of places. It may change the majority in the house in this upcoming election, because the difference in vote-counting within the two states that use it for US congressional elections might be enough to change the razor-thin outcome.

RCV is on the ballot, in one form or another, in 7 states and DC this year. Go vote. You might be able to fix the system, and move toward the future that all the people in this thread who are being vocal about Jill Stein say that they want. Remember back when marijuana was illegal? That changed. This can change too, and it would be glorious, for a lot of important goals that a lot of people claiming to support Jill Stein claim they're supportive of. It would be practical and realistic. It would work.

Anyone in this thread who is saying Jill Stein is extremely important, but haven't been saying anything about ranked choice voting or changing the voting system to make third parties realistic: Why? What's your goal, why did you make that decision about your priorities?

The answer is obvious, of course. But it's fun to ask.

@anticolonialist@lemmy.world, why?

I'll add more @s as more people pipe up. They always do.

Register and vote, for RCV as well as for Harris. We have 25 more days.

https://www.vote.org/

Michigan 2016

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Jill Stein is polling at litterally less than measurable numbers.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3913&stream=top

"Undecided" represents at least twice the voters Stein appears to be garnering.

"Once noble party" - ffs.

Jill Stein is a bad actor in this election, she understands how the electoral college works and she understands she's weakening the democratic party position. But let's not blame shift - the Democrats could be much better on climate change then they are today and if they were better Stein's BS wouldn't have such an easy time attracting voters. I dislike the title posing it as "Stein may hand Trump the whitehouse again."

Note: Jill is literally paid to run as a spoiler, and if you look at her actual policies, lot of transphobia, ablism, and support for pseudoscience

Pennsylvania 2016

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guys it's not that hard, all we have to do is to not vote for still jein.

Jill Stein has my vote! Seriously, she took it. Can someone help me get it back?

Wisconsin 2016.

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I don't understand why it is taken for granted that if Stein wasn't a candidate the people who vote for her would be voting for the Democrats instead. Just as likely they would not vote at all or vote for some other protest candidate.

It was nice to see the World News community finally realize that the DNC has been doing nothing but shooting themselves in the foot for a year.

Maybe this community will finally catch on and connect the dots between a random ass 3rd party getting blamed for stealing votes away from the Democrats, and Democrats not actually meeting the core demands of their constituency.

Or maybe not....

jesus christ this thread is a fucking nightmare bro

i feel like i've done three pounds of ketamine just scrolling through these comments.

Its the genocide thats the problem-- Steins numbres are small.. And Jill Stein owes the dems nothing, she can run if she wants. Thats what democracy is about. So the new republic can suck it.

I'm not sure who she's gonna actually end up hurting this time. I gotta imagine anyone who falls for the Jill Stein shtick is likely to fall for Trump's too.