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“The Israeli prime minister came here today and said that Israel is surrounded by those who want to destroy it,” Safadi said at a Friday press conference shortly after Netanyahu finished his speech at the UN General Assembly.

“We’re here — members of the Muslim-Arab committee, mandated by 57 Arab and Muslim countries — and I can tell you very unequivocally, all of us are willing to guarantee the security of Israel in the context of Israel ending the occupation and allowing for the emergence of a Palestinian state,” Safadi passionately argued.

Netanyahu “is creating that danger because he simply does not want the two-state solution. If he does not want the two-state solution, can you ask Israeli officials what is their end-game — other than just wars and wars and wars?”

Also, video of the statement.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 43 points 9 months ago (19 children)

I mean Netanyahu keeps crying about people wanting to destroy Israel but... uh... Israel is bordered by two allies and one enemy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not even one enemy, Lebanon just wants to be left alone. Israel is using conventional tactics in an asymmetric fight which they know doesn't work. They know it only increases membership in terrorist groups. Israel is destabilizing their region on purpose.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I meant Hezbollah, not Lebanon.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Hezbollah is hostile because Israel keeps massacring, jailing, blockading and depriving of rights their ally. Actually now they're committing a genocide against it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hezbollah isn't a country. They are, at best, a political party.

[–] Sheldybear@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Armed with lots of missiles and soldiers

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yup. I'm not saying they're nice cuddly people. But Lebanon contains other people too.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're a paramilitary organization with a small country's worth of military power (no air force though). Not trying to defend Israel, or course, but they are an Israeli enemy next to their borders.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay so 2 allies, 1 neutral, and 2 enemies. I'm purely just trying to head off the whole, "everyone is Hezbollah" argument I fully expect to see when Israel escalates this.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hamas doesn't really count in this conversation, I think. Their scale is too small.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Israel obviously doesn't think so

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think israel sees any allies. It is enemies and usefull enemies.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 9 months ago

I mean that's kind of their problem then.

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear: He speaks for the leaders, not the people.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh child...let me tell you about republics.

The reps ARE considered the people.

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Jordan is not a republic

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck. Israel has never been great, but since the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, I wonder if there's any hope for them being anything other than a rogue fucking state.

Good on Jordan et other signatories for making the offer, but I doubt it has any chance of being accepted.

This is quite the shame, as it actually solves a major problem for Israel. But the rejection itself makes it that much harder for even the strongest deniers to deny the type of crimes that are occurring now...

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I'd trust that guarantee if I was an Israeli...

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's hard to imagine why a cult of genocidal colonizers can't trust outsiders.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I was just thinking because it'd be the ones you'd want guarantees against. It'd be like Russia guaranteeing Ukraine's security or vice versa, neither side would put their faith in such a guarantee.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yet it's the only way to peace. Germany and France put their faith into each others' guarantees after WW2 and created the EU. Peace is possible.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That peace only came after one side was soundly defeated and occupied. Not sure it makes for a good precendent.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The Arabs have already been soundly defeated and occupied. Multiple times.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TIL Israel has defeated and occupied the 57 Arab and Muslim countries mentioned in the article.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm obviously talking about the Palestinians and the Lebanese, duh. And as far as defeat, yes they have defeated also the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians, and a few others.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not just the Lebanese and Palestinians that we are talking about and they'd have to trust for the guarantees. Obviously the situation is nowhere close to France and Germany post WW2.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

This is raising the bar to a ridiculous and silly level. Are you seriously going to argue for ...Algerians, Indonesians and Afghanis being threats? Their immediate neighbours to the south, west and east have normalized relations and are squarely within the Atlantic system. The Saudis and the Gulf states are almost there, too (had it not been for October 7th, this would have already happened). As the Syrians are basically a failed state, the only ones that are left are quite literally the Lebanese and the Palestinians. The influence of Iran hinges precisely on the legitimate grievances of these peoples. Address those, and you got peace. But you don't have the Greater Israel of the Israeli far right's wet dreams.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago

Israel will end up using its secret nuclear arsenal for a similar guarantee.

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