You know, I would bet there's tens of thousands of Russians that would be interested in having children if they didn't all have a case of unnecessary deadness. If only something could have been done to avoid that.
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But if you can’t send them to get gunned down in a foreign land, what is even the point of having more children? Do you hear yourself?
Can we get the .ml crew in here to explain why this is actually good and freedom? Because I'm a little confused.
Why does ml crew defend modern day Russia? Modern day Russia is not a communist country. I’m confused why any communist would defend the USSR in general, especially after Stalin took power. Makes no damn sense to me.
Because they're supported, and 'west bad!!!'.
They support the hell out of chairman pooh as well, and he's one of the world's major billionaires according to the paradise papers.
USA bad -> Russia good
It's because tankies aren't communists, they're authoritarians.
Come on, .ml, tell us how the west has fallen and Russia is the last true bastion of civilization and people's rights. We're waiting.
A commendable effort by Russia to discourage the promotion of human extinction.
The nation starting wars and extracting fossil fuels is soooo concerned with the extinction of humanity.
I too am curious what this has to do with socialism and how it is not simply campist brain rot.
We're waitinggg...
We cannot.
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This is what JD Vance wants for America
This, together with the wifebeater-law, is what Hexbears want for America
Under His eye.
While fathering some sofas on the side
Should we make a society that people want to bring a child into??
Nah lol
💡If we simply make it illegal to... not have children? No, that's not right. Not want to have children? No, impossible to enforce. Ah, it must be illegal to profess the lack of desire to have children. What a beautiful and simple law that will certainly address the root cause of falling birth rates.
Uncle vlad needs meat for his glorious meat grinder
How long ‘til this becomes a GOP plank?
It already is, basically.
Citizens stop having kids because they can't afford them, government fines them and makes rape, I mean traditional values, more acceptable instead of making rich people stop hoarding all the cash.
believe it or not, straight to jail
Fertility clinic
Does anyone know the strategic reason for right wing authoritarians prioritizing people having kids? Like project 2025 talks about it a bunch, but nothing totally clear cut comes to mind as to why. At least not that feels like it fully justifies how clearly important it is, and that isn't just me dismissing it as meaningless control or whatever. It feels strategically important
In this case it's clearly important militarily, but that's also not likely to help in the present conflict in Ukraine. It'll take a long time for those kids to grow up, but at least they'd help mitigate population loss
Traditional values used to subjugate women. That's really it. The same reason they hate abortion. Pregnancy and children are traditionally ways to control womem. "Keep em barefoot and pregnant" and so forth.
More working class children means that there will be more people to exploit in the future. The size of the working class population is extremely important for the generation of wealth because they’re basically the only ones doing productive labour.
They want to grow the population in order to have more workers and consumers. There's also a white nationalist component where they're afraid that white people will become a minority and they'll use this demographic power to agitate for more equality, which is basically oppression to those people (because if it was only about economic growth, they'd be pro migration).
Corporations need consumers (constant growth model). Military needs more living soldiers.
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The wealthy are running a massive pyramid scheme and need a constant influx of plebs to support the bottom tiers.
Obsession with control, including control over future generations
Putler absolutely would send preteens to Ukraine if he started running out of adults.
No idea what kind of level prioritising is meant, but all governments should provide benefits to children since any country needs their population to be healthy and not decline. You want young working able people to replace old population so that there are enough workers and taxpayers to keep country going.
Russia is like, “Sons! We need sons for the fatherland so that they can fight in the field against Ukraine!” How inhuman can Russia be?
I find it disturbing that they apparently expect that their 3 day operation will be ongoing two decades from now.
So I just did a quick analysis of war lengths after and including WWII, and given that this isn't my area of expertise, but they tend to run around 30 years on average. You either get out quickly or you're there for generations. Russia is losing troops at a rate that worries me and I'm on Ukraine's side of the war.
There’s always a new country to destroy and use it to blame the west.
Keep making life shitty and it will happen all on its own anyway. Hell making it a law might Streisand Effect it.
Here's this one cool hack they don't want you to know about. Governments hate it!
I hate headlines with the word could. Remind me when it has or is. I could become a billionaire but it's highly unlikely I will. Just like her fine or the arrest of Putin.
I think there's a time between "This thing is possible I guess" and "you're already fucked" that I'd like to hear about things.
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