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[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Yeah, you can call yourself a leftist all you want, but when 90% of your posts is calling Biden and Zelensky Nazis but you never criticize Putin or Trump, I get certain doubts.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Posting about Trump or Putin being bad would be akin to making posts about ISIS being bad: it goes without saying.

Like 99% of people on this platform already agrees with you, it's really not a contentious issue. There's no significant MAGA or Russian nationalist instance federated. None of their supporters would see it, it would be a completely moot point.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Oh how I wish that was true. Unfortunately I've seen far too many people support Russia in this war, both offline and online, including here.

Maybe I'm wrong about hexbear, I certainly hope that I am, but on lemmygrad I saw long posts with many upvotes explaining how this war is a good thing and Putin is a hero that is fighting against the capitalists etc.

Edit: and now lemmygrad had Hunter's laptop on the front page. Could they be any more obvious?

Edit2: lol, you almost had me believing that I was wrong and just too paranoid. Then in this very thread I got two people from hexbear telling me how NATO and Ukraine are evil, heavily upvoted. Still nothing bad about either Trump or Putin. Thanks.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Right, but if you made a post about how Putin is a great leader or Republicans have better policies and child labour, homophobia and lower taxes on the rich are good on Hexbear you're going to get shat on in the comments if not outright banned.

Criticizing NATO is more pressing because online discourse is extremely pro-NATO. Reddit, for example, loves NATO expansion and loved when Finland joined. None of the disdain for NATO is praise for Putin being a corrupt nationalist.

Also anything involving Hunter Biden is funny. He's just an obscenely offbeat person. While the Trump children (except Tiffany and for now Barron) are just slimy sycophants trying to gain daddy's approval while swindling money out of MAGA morons, Hunter is doing cocaine and sleeping with prostitutes. Its never really in our discourse for anti-Biden posts to criticize Hunter, he's become a micro celebrity in his own right. If anything we literally like Hunter better than Joe

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Still nothing bad about either Trump or Putin.

Its because we don't have to convince y'all that Trump and Putin are bad because you already think that. We'd just be spitting into an echo chamber, preaching to the choir. There's no point. To be clear we dunk on Trump all the time. We do not like him.

Why do you think that leftists have to say "but also btw Trump is also bad" every time we criticize Biden? That would make no sense.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We had a user who would uncritically support Russia and Operation Z. A "Z poster", if you will. They were banned on several accounts and no one really missed them.

Some of us tepidly support the CPRF, which is largely controlled opposition. We recognize that counting since 2014, there's a lot of propaganda, civilian strikes, and land mines coming from both sides. Most of us favor an immediate armistice along the present LOC that follows pretty closely a "dividing line" for the plurality ethnicity as evidenced by the past 30 years of linguistic, electoral, and poling data. And we favor quick peace as opposed to continued hostility that likely will go nowhere.

It sucks that Ukraine's self-determination is being jeopardized by Russia. It sucks that Luhansk's self-determination is being jeopardized by Ukraine. It sucks that there's a geopolitical standoff between the two strongest military powers that overlays this. It sucks that the only imaginable ruling party in Russia is a reactionary capitalist one that was ushered in by Clinton's intervention. And it sucks that they're all probably just going to die in a field to resolve it, and make the situation in Bosnia look like a vacation resort in comparison.

There is a silver lining in that we are seeing a great power struggle to subjugate its neighbor, and also in that the wearing down of NATO and Russia allows the less belligerent, more progressive, emerging superpower to have more sway in the world. Some might say that makes it "worth it" but I certainly don't.

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[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Literally posted 3 articles yesterday criticising trump but go off.

[–] SigloPseudoMundo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You forgot the genocide denial as well. I don't understand why they worship Russia like the ussr is still around.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Oop im feeling it, gotta worship Russia now. stalin-smokin. Wanna hit?

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[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah, it's so strange that people confuse you with a Kremlin bot when you repeatedly spew the same fucking bullshit talking points as the bots themselves.

[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like something a CIA bot would say thinkin-lenin

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[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I forgot how ignorant and self-righteous Reddit liberals were. The ones I've seen are easily the loudest and dumbest people on this network of federated instances. They have their "conviction" and "is wrong" sliders completely maxed out.

[–] AnomalousBit@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Your post is literally “DuMb LIbrhULS” with bonus noise. Self-projecting much?

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You're right I haven't completely purged the liberal inside me and I hate myself for it being there still

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Bad is the enemy of good, and right-wingers are bad.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I swear to god the next time tells me that BS I am going to shit myself, vomit, and cry.

There is a literal anti-Trans genocide in the US. That's "The good" you're defending.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Democrats are right wingers. And they're worlds away from anything I'd call "good"

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're so vain

You don't think that this post is about you, do you?

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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

What's the difference between a fascist and an "anarchist" who does everything they can to kneecap the only viable left leaning political party in the US?

There's no practical difference, just window dressing. They both cheer on oppression and pain for those suffering under Republicans.

And don't even get me started on communists. Left and right authoritarians, I've gotten death threats from both of them. Whether it's some leftist telling me I would "get the wall" when the Revolution comes or some fucking Republican telling me that the US was only for Christians and that they'll go after "traitors" soon, you get to the same fucking place at the end of the day. The only real difference is that there's far more Republicans, and they're far more organized than left authoritarians.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the only viable left leaning political party in the US?

I might be misunderstanding you, so I apologize if that is the case, but if you are referring to the Democrats they are far from left leaning. They aren't even center leaning.

You can't even say they have a better track record than the Republicans. They bomb countries as much (or in recent years even more) than the Republicans. They advocate for wars. They fund ICE even more than the Republicans. They stand up just as much for reproductive rights (read: not at all). They just do all of it while waving a rainbow flag.

I really hope you meant the Greens or the CPUSA; which have their own issues but are certainly more left than either the Democrats or Republicans.

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This comment is giving me so much whiplash.

I was sure it was gonna be ironic when they started comparing anarchists to fascists, but fun fact: no, they actually mean it. Anarchists are fascists, everyone. You've heard it here first!

I swear, if there's something liberals hate more than what's on their right, it's what's on their left.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Vibes based politics is endemic among liberals. We try to help them but it's mostly futile.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the only viable left leaning political party in the US?

If you mean the Democrats (which you must to say ""viable"") you are too lost in the sauce.

"Come on guys, we should back the Strassers. They aren't perfect but come on!"

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I really want to know what you said before the communist told you that you deserved the wall

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[–] Sleazy_Albanese@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even im weirded out by how thoroughly the left was suppressed on reddit and other platforms. People on reddit only saw themselves mirrored and thought they were the only ones who existed.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

the strawman is "vote blue no matter who"
...
no, it's vote blue whenever "red" is a literal dictator, who promises to be a dictator when elected, who tried a coup once already, who leads a fascist gop splinter group...
vote any fucking color against that shit, not no matter who.
there's bad, and there's barely distinguishable from hitler bad...
stop lying

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