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Mozilla leadership (fedia.io)
submitted 2 months ago by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org to c/firefox@fedia.io
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Mozilla leadership
(in ref to https://mozilla.social/@mozilla/113153943609185249 )

#comic #firefox #mozilla

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[–] linebyline@bytetower.social 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org A for-profit corporation that absolutely loathes feedback from end users and community members, except when it's dripping with praise for their latest attempt to appease techbro capitalists, is cutting off an avenue for feedback on a platform largely populated by people who violently hate techbro capitalism. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

How did this even happen? Is Mozilla made up entirely of people who didn't get accepted by google?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mozilla is less worse than Google et al, but let's be frank - we need a community-developed browser. Enough of this corporate bullshit.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what I heard, Servo is working on one

https://servo.org/blog/2024/09/11/building-browser/

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is genuinely great, specially since they're using their own web engine. Thanks for sharing, I'll keep a closer eye at the project.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

NP! I'd argue Ladybird as well, but given how much donations they're taking from corporate already.... Doubt they'll keep as a 'for the people' browser

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 28 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Tired: posting a meme reaction
Wired: drawing a customized meme of your own

[–] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://killedbymozilla.com/

Another service on the chopping block

[–] ChaoticCookie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

https://killedbygoogle.com Their list is still smaller than google's at least.

[–] TheRealPomax@mathstodon.xyz 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I left Mozilla after a decade of working at the Foundation because it was more than obvious that it had no idea wtf it was doing and they were no longer aligned with my moral compass. And they've just kept on reinforcing that over and over the last few years.

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe because people who cared left?

[–] TheRealPomax@mathstodon.xyz 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@Dindonmasker sorry, are you trying to blame individual contributor for the years long failing of the executive team? Because that's what it sounds like, and that'd be quite an amazingly short-sighted thing to say, so I hope that's not what you're saying.

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No? I'm just saying that maybe whoever cared more before are no longer there. I have no idea of the structure of mozilla management but if something changed it's because people changed.

[–] TheRealPomax@mathstodon.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

@Dindonmasker unfortunately it's worse than that, the people who cared the most absolutely changed, but not by leaving. Instead they were put at the top, and ran things into the ground.

[–] digitalfox@yip.vulpine.engineer 15 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Oh, I hadn't heard… I.. I just don't get how Mozilla keeps making these choices that burn community goodwill.

But your comic is a fun, lighthearted way to represent it. One day that fox of fire will have a good caretaker.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I'd still fuck the fox.

[–] sumokirby@mastodon.gamedev.place 12 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org They don't deserve something this cute

[–] kaelef@beige.party 11 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org The web can't afford for Firefox to go away. I really hope someone figures out how to make Mozilla effective and sustainable.

[–] skedarwarrior@techhub.social 11 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Mozilla has become kind of a clown I will admit. But its not 100% evil like Google. Its close, but there's still some traces of goodness left. Or they would embrace webextensions v3 without caring.

[–] aligorith@mastodon.nz 10 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Ugh! Firefox just can't seem to catch a break with bad management decisions

[–] charadon@8bit.red 8 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Another one for the Mozilla graveyard!

[–] InsaneAwesomeTony@mastodon.gamedev.place 6 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org it's a cute drawing tho! 🤩

[–] ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org In the context of this: while many of the actions of @mozilla@mozilla.social feel annoying (i.e. axing FirefoxOS just before it became widespread in South America) and while it doesn’t look like that if you plot a market share which includes the massively growing number of mobile devices with a bundled browser:

Firefox has been mostly keeping its users since 2017.

https://www.draketo.de/software/firefox-usercount

[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2017 and 2021 it stayed mostly stable at 190 million users

Interesting that they almost managed to stop the decline for a few years there. In 2024 after the recent string of nonsensical decisions it's down to 158 million.

[–] ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@kbal@fedia.io yes.

While they were widely criticized during that time, 2017 to 2022 were actually pretty stable years. And that despite constant uncertainty about the future (“will Google continue to pay?”) and failures to get other revenue sources (AFAIK).
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @mozilla@mozilla.social

[–] ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@kbal@fedia.io I have the impression that CEO’s and equivalents often forget the importance of the existing userbase.

So instead of making the existing people happy and trying to reach others from that base, they shoot for the big crowd — but without having enough to stand on.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @mozilla@mozilla.social

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 2 months ago

@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social Oh yes, my feeling also about it.

@kbal@fedia.io

[–] Juankz@mastodon.gamedev.place 5 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org one more to https://killedbymozilla.com/

[–] yon@sakurajima.moe 5 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org You’d make a good politician cartoonist, but I wouldn’t want to wish that upon someone nice.

[–] guayabito@mastodon.cr 4 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org #TrueStory 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm feeling a bit lost. What happened?

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mozilla are doing the same AI integration as all the other browsers, so lemmings have decided that Mozilla is evil now.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which is so stupid. Only a good browser with AI can stop a dead internet filled with AI junk.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's an arms race. But now the arms go off randomly and sometimes shoot things behind you. But corporate has spent so much money on it that we can't turn back now

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 8 points 2 months ago

@P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br You can follow the link in the ref and read comments: it's about a leadership decision of Mozilla to close their Mastodon instance. They do this while they invest a lot on AI.
In short, it's Mozilla governance that is going more and more full speed into a "capitalism tech bro" mindset, at the cost of a more and more visible departure of the Free/Libre software community. A decision that I qualify of them being clowns, now. And I parody the meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/putting-on-clown-makeup for that.

[–] gmic@piaille.fr 3 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I think of a lot of other references related to Mozilla where this applies too! 😬

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait I thought we liked Firefox

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

I do, but it's also a shame that mozilla.social is shutting down.

[–] Camus@jlai.lu 2 points 2 months ago

Très beau, c'est cool de voir votre travail ici!

[–] nours@mastouille.fr 2 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org really great

[–] Lioh@social.anoxinon.de 1 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I like the new CEO

[–] sirber@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org clowns get the money though

[–] Mwa@mstdn.social 1 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
soo true

[–] Emily@sakurajima.moe 1 points 1 month ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Browsers based on Gecko Firefox and Chrome Blink

are compromised, ecause both companies updating the main build are either becoming, or are ad companies.

Switching to browser based on Webkit is a good idea for long term privacy.

[–] f4grx@chaos.social 1 points 2 months ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org t'es génial.

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