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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've been looking at this.

Kelly looks good but has little actual experience in government. And I doubt she wants to gamble with losing a Senate seat. So I think he's out.

Shapiro has lots of state government experience, it's not federal but still good for him thinking through policy decisions and knowing how to get things done. Also a swing state, and he has mid west appeal which works over multiple swing states. Apparently really good at fighting against maga types. I think he's in.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And I doubt she wants to gamble with losing a Senate seat.

With a Dem governor to appoint a replacement, and a state that's looking more blue than Wisconsin or Michigan or Virginia, its honestly not as big a gamble as you'd think.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Replacement lasts until 2026, whereas Kelly would last until 2028. That's Harris's mid term election. Losing the Senate can gridlock everything.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

We lost the Senate when we elected Sinema and Manchin.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I hated Buttigieg because he went back on his progressive roots and disappointed his socialist father BUT I wish she would pick him.

My money though is on Kelly or Shapiro because they need AZ and PA.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love Buttigieg and his VP debate versus Vance would be fun to witness, but is the US ready for a black female presidential candidate with an openly gay VP? I seem to have been wrong about how much racism and sexism would hinder Kamala so maybe it's not an issue? I still fear it would be too much

I don't like all Kelly's positions, but helping potentially win AZ would be important and for undecideds and simple minded people the astronaut factor is not to be underestimated. He seems like a very "safe" and sensible pick.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

is the US ready for a black female presidential candidate with an openly gay VP

Only if they're Republicans.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

BUT I wish she would pick him.

Not enough McKinsey consultants in the White House.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hated Buttigieg because he went back on his progressive roots and disappointed his socialist father

Buttigieg was always a technocratic cypher. He relied mostly on his access to elite schools, and background as a "McKenssyite" to get access to the stage. His primary credentials were being a one time mayor of a college town, and his elitist access that being a McKensie fellow afforded. When it seemed inconvenient to be a progressive, he was no longer a progressive. My central issue with him as a candidate was simply that he had not run-in and won a state or federal election. Its a soft-requirement I've had for a while is that you at least need to show me you can win elections. Him going on to spoiling the progressive tickets when and where necessary and being rewarded for that with his position as Transportation Secretary, was just insult to injury.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, him being rewarded for stopping a Bernie Sanders presidency was infuriating.

For context about his father...

Pete Buttigieg Just Dealt a Blow to His Father's Legacy

https://jacobin.com/2020/03/pete-buttigieg-joseph-father-legacy-antonio-gramsci-bernie-sanders

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Fascinating read. It actually makes me want to buy Buittigieg's fathers book.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man, I hope it's Capt. Kelly. Just because it would be so nice to have a scientist at that level. He could be for the Democrats what they hoped Dr. Oz could be for Republicans, but Dr. Oz is weird as fuck.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's my pick as well, because I think he's a good, sharp guy, and I think he'll help the ticket the most. If I wasn't concerned about them winning, I'd probably pick Buttigieg. Kelly is a little more conservative than I'd prefer and Pete just impresses me every time he opens his mouth.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pete is very smart. His background concerns me.

[–] BobbyShmurda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

What about his background do you find concerning?

[–] joeynotjoe@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really, really hope it’s not Shapiro. Shapiro would be a huge setback for stopping the Israeli genocide, which is a massive not only campaign issue, but worldwide issue.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Harris is going to continue the genocide and if you complain you'll be told that you're supporting Donald Trump.

[–] Happywop@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its not genocide when the people you are fighting only wish for your obliteration.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

A sentiment straight out of Mein Kampf

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

New episode of The Whitest Kids You Know?

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Politically, in our racist and sexist country, the VP probably has to be a white man. If it's not, the ticket loses a few percent of the vote.