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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 47 points 2 months ago

Who cares? That place is full of LOSERS and SUCKERS and Veterans and Military Personnel would HIGHLY AGREE WITH ME otherwise they wouldn't LOVE TRUMP so much!

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can only try to imagine the pain of this family, who loved this hero and lost him so tragically, see his final resting place treated as a prop for a man who thinks people in the military are losers.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

Trump doesn't thinks all the military are losers, just the fallen ones, like Beret.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are these the folks pictured? Why did they agree to that, and smile?

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ok, could you clarify then? Who the heck were they then? It adds to the issue if some randos posed with the grave

Edit why was this downvoted? I am actually interested if those people are trump staff or something

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The article does a better job of explaining it. But the people mentioned who are complaining were the family of another soldier whose gravestone was in the picture. The people giving the thumbs up posing with Trump are another family of a different soldier.

The Trump campaign is saying that they were invited there and given permission to take a picture. The invite and permission came from the family in the picture, but there is a federal law against taking campaign photos there for situations just like this. It's incredibly tacky and disrespectful to take thumbs up photos for a political campaign on other people's graves, even if a few living people said it was ok.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The worst part of all this is Trump set up the conditions for Abbey Gate. By the time Biden took office there wasn't anything he could do short of throwing a couple infantry divisions back into the Afghanistan and telling everyone to leave right away because the ANA wouldn't hold. At which point he needs more infantry divisions because that announcement would create chaos in the country. And that presupposes they successfully figure out just how badly the Afghan National Army's readiness was misreported and they get honest reporting from their contractors about the loyalty of the governors, after 4 years of replacing anyone who didn't report good things.

Trump is the worst kind of grifter, he killed that man and told his family that it was Biden's fault because Biden got stuck with Trump's grenade after Trump pulled the pin.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@fedia.io 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but see that family that invited him there was "special" and the laws don't apply to them or to Trump when they say they don't. Typical fucking MAGAts.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

why was this downvoted?

Because instead of reading the article you made assumptions and are now asking other commenters to spoon feed you the information that is in the article.

If you're actually interested then RTFA.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It is not indicated in the article who the people from the popularized thumbs up photo are in relation to the family complaining. The article indicates the family was unhappy their family's gravesite was included in the photo. I was curious if those in the photo were intimidated or coerced into posing, or if ANOTHER family is discussing ANOTHER gravestone, which is what I asked for clarity on. Getting a one word "no" is not useful, so I followed up.

Edit also this is a discussion forum, and my comment could also indicate I didn't understand something. It's not unreasonable to ask people to clarify.

Your reply is toxic, and assumes the worst of others.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The first paragraph:

A New York Times reporter joined CNN on Wednesday night to discuss her reporting on the family of a Green Beret buried in Arlington National Cemetery expressing concern that former President Donald Trump's campaign filmed at his gravesite without permission and in an area where campaign photos are banned.

Strongly implies it's not the family in the picture.

If we continue reading:

His family told the Times that Marckesano's gravesite was caught in pictures with Trump.

While another family said they wanted Trump there, this family did not.

"The Marckesano family was not contacted or asked for this, but his gravestone is now in that TikTok video from behind," said Times reporter Maggie Haberman on CNN, noting the front of the gravestone with his name is in pictures posted online with Trump giving a thumbs-up.

Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesman, told the Times in a statement that “the campaign will continue to respect the wishes of the Gold Star family members who invited President Trump.”

Haberman noted Gold Star families are not a "monolith" and have differing political opinions. The "broader issue" in this case is whether Trump violated federal law.

"So far the Trump campaign has yet to provide documentation of its claim that it was permitted to do this and that there was an agreement," she said.

It's all very clear from the article if you tried reading it in the first place before asking others to explain it to you.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Were they the ones posing with the orange miscarriage?