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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the millionth time, Stallman was right.

[–] kevin@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, you send me html, my browser can interpret it any way that I want it to. If I want to ignore all of the image and script tags, I can. I don't need Chrome or even Chromium. As Stallman says, you should know what is running on your system.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to go back to html and css. Using an ad blocker and noscript literally breaks webpages. I just want to read the article! You know the content ppl actually come for

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

But how is all the bloat going to get to you then? HTML with some images is equally functional and loads in a fraction of the time, because it is actually efficient. Nobody could want that could they?

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see legitimate uses for java script, like popping out a menu. But it seriously needs its capabilities restricted.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can pop out menus with CSS.

[–] nicman24@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop using chrome. Yes brave is chrome

[–] SkullGamer205@mastodon.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] chocobo13z@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Gecko, the underlying engine behind Firefox, is an entirely different code base from Chromium

Firefox doesn’t use chromium. It uses Gecko, which is an entirely separate codebase.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that’s also not private as has been claimed as a reason to go FF. The only reason to use FF is only to not use chrome. Not for all the reasons that chrome is bad.

[–] zucky@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Tor Browser, LibreWolf, and Arkenfox JS are the most secure and private browsers you can get and they're all based on Firefox. If they're not private enough for you, I don't know what is

[–] artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, 2023. The year I wore a pirate hat and touched more grass. Soon they'll be bribing the govt to make going outside illegal.

[–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Soon they'll be bribing the govt to make going outside illegal.

That was 2020

[–] bad_alloc@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

We saw the mass adoption of the internet, which before was mostly used by a small group of techies. Now we might be heading to a split: The mass walled garden and a separate smaller but free internet.

[–] Zinggi57@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think a lot of people here don't understand the danger of this fully and dismiss it with "Just use Firefox, problem solved".
Unfortunately, once this becomes widely available, that is once Chrome ships it, websites will start to use it.
Maybe Amazon will just not sell to you anymore when you're browsing with Firefox?
Maybe YouTube wont serve any videos if you're using Linux?
Your bank will certainly implement this and only allow Windows 11 with Edge or some shit like that.
Once this is implemented, we will all suffer, even if we're using better alternatives right now.

[–] Ushi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Your bank will certainly implement this

My brother in Christ, it was 2020 before my bank supported passwords longer than 8 characters. We have 30 or 40 years before we need to worry about the banks.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

"What's internet? It it like Googlenet but worse?"

-Some kid in the future

[–] IntentionallyAnon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

DRM is stupid because it interferes with paying customers and isn’t effective. If there’s a will there’s a way

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] FluffyToaster621@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on, what about Meta and the fediverse?

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meta's new Threads network is supposed to start federating via ActivityPub at some point.

[–] moonmeow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

well, i guess some silver lining is that threads is basically non-existent after its launch. The serious and place to be instances will block threads. If i need to go see something on threads i'll join an instance that allows it, but doubt i'd ever bother.

Didn't even bother checking it out.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, Google's doing what now?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

They want to implement a "feature" so websites only load for you, if your browser, OS and hardware are deemed "trustworthy" aka you load every ad and malware that the website wants to shove down your throat.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recently played Hacknet, a hacking game published in 2015. That game talks a LOT about being tracked on the Internet, telling you to delete logs and some IP address data in file headers.

I think it's becoming reality.

[–] ArtDragon38@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The game tells you to delete the logs on servers because computers can track all incoming requests, which can be a problem when you are doing nefarious actions and looking through confidentional infornation. Tracking who is accessing a computer/server and why has been a common practice, especially for buisnesses.

You also don't actually need to delete the logs while playing. There are only 1 or 2 minor moments where there is a consequence for not doing that, and in those cases a fork bomb is also needed (to prevent leaving a disconnect log).

The actual scary part of the game is (SPOILERS) a big tech company developing a massive 0-day exploit and wanting to monopolize the patch for it.

[–] BeeOneTwoThree@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This might be an unpopular and ignorant take.

Services like Reddit, Twitter and Youtube needs to make money somehow. They provide a service that the users enjoy, and it is fair that they want componsation for those services. Aslong as they are upfront with how and what you are paying with I think it is fine, and the user can themself choose not to use the service if they feel like the payment is too high.

It seems like we are whining about not being able to watch quality content for free. Even Lemmy needs donations or kind souls to keep running.

The DRM and Chrome changes might be worse... But in the end it is the same base argument, we need more competition to reduce the price or stop using services we don't like / want to pay for.

[–] sediton@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say its unpopular, but I do agree its a bit ignorant but not in the probably negative way you mean.

I think its your acceptance that its fundamental that "Business MUST profit and we MUST suffer to allow them to profit"

You're making a huge leap that we need to suffer through all of the internet getting worse just because a corporation wants to profit. Fuck Google, Fuck Reddit, fuck all businesses that fail. Who cares? We owe them nothing.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rulers figured out the internet is too dangerous to their power. They thought they could control it and us, and they did for a long time, but it's not working anymore. Now they are cracking down on our ability to communicate, to prevent ideas from spreading and taking hold that they cannot tolerate.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

? They’re just following the end game of capitalism, they’re trying to squeeze every last bit of profit out of the internet that they can, it has nothing to do with the internet “threatening” power, they already took care of that with all of the spying laws they passed when the internet started getting popular

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe, but capitalism has been the case the entire time, why is social media globally melting down in 2023?

Also, spying laws are not necessarily effective at containing the spread of ideas.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

interest rate hikes, VCs are demanding their money back and companies are scrambling to become profitable/more profitable.

Edit: forgot to address the other point, they don't really care about us spreading ideas as long as we don't actually threaten their power. There is absolutely 0 threat of a socialist revolution anywhere in the west right now