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Communist parties are banned in Ukraine BTW. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2614140

Also a Ukrainian communist i know confirmed it's true

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a Leftist who isn't a Communist. There's lots of room on the Left.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, lots of us live in reality and don't try and convince others a utopian society is in any way possible.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Siri what is capitalist realism? Also Marxism is literally a materialist ideology, non-marxist leftists generally follow more utopian ideology.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am hoping by "communists" you mean people who are aligned with marxism ideal, but not people supporting authoritarian capitalist regimes.

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed, fuck "communists" who support the US and their line

[–] Retirix_YT@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck communists.

[–] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 1 points 1 year ago

Yes daddy 🥵

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support any country's right to not be conquered by capitalist, imperialist oligarchs whether I like their internal politics or not. I hate it when the US does it, so it would be hypocritical to not hate it when Russia does the same thing.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, I was opposed to the U.S.'s imperialist war for oil in Iraq. Just like I oppose Russia's imperialist war for oil in Ukraine.

[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, my understanding is there is a lot of oil in Ukraine (I think donbas specifically but don't quote me on that). And arguably more importantly, a major pipeline runs through Ukraine. My understanding is the EU is currently very reliant on Russian oil and they would very much like to not be. Hence, why Ukrainian membership to NATO is so attractive.

I think a lot of people in the West dismiss Putin as a nutjob, but I think there is a rational reason for controlling Ukraine. Oil is Russia's largest export after all.

All of that isn't meant to excuse Russia; it's unethical to murder for oil. But it's intellectually lazy to dismiss a rational actor (albeit an unethical actor) as crazy. But capitalism gonna capitalism. And until we put an end to capitalism, people are going to continue to murder for money.