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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has issued a dire warning to her party about the chaos that could ensue if they succeed in pushing President Joe Biden off the ticket. And she criticized Democrats who’ve given off-the-record quotes that suggest the party has resigned itself to a second Trump term.

In an Instagram Live video on Thursday, Ocasio-Cortez warned liberals that a brokered convention could lead to chaos, in part because she says some of the Democratic “elites” who want Biden out also don’t want Vice President Kamala Harris as the nominee in his place. 

“If you think that is going to be an easy transition, I’m here to tell you that a huge amount of the donor class and these elites who are pushing for the president not to be the nominee also do not want to see the VP be the nominee,” she said. 

Ocasio-Cortez claimed none of the people she’s spoken with who are calling on Biden to drop out — including lawmakers and legal experts — have articulated a plan to swap out the nominee without minimizing the serious legal and procedural challenges that are likely to ensue. 

Ocasio-Cortez also highlighted the racial, ethnic and class divisions that appear to have formed between the majority of those pining to blow up the ticket — led mostly by white Democrats and media pundits — and those elected officials who feel they and their constituents have too much at stake to upend the process at this point and so are willing to do the work to re-elect Biden-Harris. She alluded to this cultural divide in her video when she spoke out against anonymous sources expressing a sense of fatalism on behalf of Democrats about what might happen if Biden remains on the ticket: 

What I will say is what upsets me is [Democrats] saying we will lose. For me, to a certain extent, I don’t care what name is on there. We are not losing. I don’t know about you, but my community does not have the option to lose. My community does not have the luxury of accepting loss in July of an election year. My people are the first ones deported. They’re the first ones put in Rikers. They’re the first ones whose families are killed by war.

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[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Go back and watch Pelosi's speeches from the late 70s on C-SPAN. AOC sounds exactly like her, and we've seen how out of touch Pelosi and all other politicians are.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That just sounds like Pelosi was straight fire in her prime. Will AOC be stale in 50 years? Maybe, or maybe she ends up a Bernie.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

She gonna be a pelosi

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No shit. The time for not backing Biden was in the last primary. If the Democrats weren't so fucking short sighted and power hungry, they would have had a primary all of last year instead of now having to back this geriatric horse against a geriatric, racist, fascist, horse in this race.

That said, I'll be voting for the geriatric horse because the alternative will end up getting my minority ass killed.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Biden just stepped down for elections

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She turned me around. I'm riding with Biden. I'm serious. I hope the Democrats don't fuck this up even more. If Kamala can't taker her rightful place without the donors get in the way then fuck them all. I'm voting for a mentally compromised candidate. I hate this system.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m voting for a mentally compromised candidate.

Not if they yank him off the ticket, first. That's been half the joke of this election.

Biden was never seriously primaried, even as people like Dean Phillips were screaming about his collapsing mental state. Now we're days out from the Dem convention and suddenly people want to do a quicky re-vote? Its too late you assholes. You blew it.

I'm with AOC that a contested convention will almost certainly produce some kind of horrid ghoul like Joe Manchin at the top of the ticket. Curious to see how disposable the party has Kamala. But the idea that Biden is somehow worth defending is asinine. Backing Biden as he deteriorates in real time is a bad move by AOC and won't be repaid even if Biden does win the election, because he's always been a corporate creature with no love for a couple of Brooklyn leftists like AOC and Sanders.

[–] Russty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A Manchin that wins is better than an ideal candidate that loses.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/biden-west-wing-aaron-sorkin.html

But there’s something the Democrats can do that would not just put a lump in people’s throats with its appeal to stop-Donald-Trump-at-all-costs unity, but with its originality and sense of sacrifice. So here’s my pitch to the writers’ room: The Democratic Party should pick a Republican.

At their convention next month, the Democrats should nominate Mitt Romney.

Nominating Mr. Romney would be putting our money where our mouth is: a clear and powerful demonstration that this election isn’t about what our elections are usually about it, but about stopping a deranged man from taking power. Surely Mr. Romney, who doesn’t have to be introduced to voters, would peel off enough Republican votes to win, probably by a lot. The double haters would be turned into single haters and the Nikki Haley voters would have somewhere to go, Ms. Haley having disqualified herself when she endorsed the leader of an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the government.

Does Mr. Romney support abortion rights? No. Does he want to aggressively raise the minimum wage, bolster public education, strengthen unions, expand transgender rights and enact progressive tax reform? Probably not. But is he a cartoon thug who did nothing but watch TV while the mob he assembled beat and used Tasers on police officers? No. The choice is between Donald Trump and not-Trump, and the not-Trump candidate needs only one qualification: to win enough votes from a cross section of Americans to close off the former president’s Electoral College path back to power.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

AOC and Bernie are both saying this and I agree 110%. In all occasions. The most important thing is we all make a plan to go out and vote. Talk to other democrats and make sure they fight that demoralization and go out and vote. There is so much at stake with Project 2025 that I dont even care about these headlines anymore.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

His health is declining fast and way too many people think he looks too old (both candidates are) and too mentally busted to last 4 more years. Let alone him even staying coherent another 6 months. He is 100% unable to coherently and quickly speak anymore and it's not going to magically get better. The real issue is that they should have done something about it 4 months ago so a better candidate could have been picked and it could have looked like Bidens choice to no run for a second term.

I still think the best chance is to put in someone else, but it's pretty much too late for them to get their shit together.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

I’m beginning to think the play is for Joe to only last till the election because there’s no fucking way the country is going to learn about and be excited by one single person with the amount of time the completely incompetent DNC has left us with. If Joe decides he’s too banged up on day one, he can leave the office then.