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35 crypto companies got together to make a change dot org petition called "Bitcoin Deserves an Emoji".

F that

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't mind there being an emoji for cryptocurrency. It's a relevant thing in modern society whether we like it or not, so there's no reason it should be excluded. But just not Bitcoin, specifically. Even though Bitcoin is the one that kicked off crypto, it's still a brand name, which would result in auto-rejection according to the Unicode Consortium's guidelines.

If there was a more general-purpose icon/symbol that could represent cryptocurrency in general, that'd be more appropriate. But it can't be Bitcoin.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't think Bitcoin has, or can, be trademarked or copyrighted, as it is an open-source protocol/technology where even the creator is unknown?

Either way there isn't a generic symbol for cryptocurrency. This emoji will go the way of the save icon, where in a couple generations most people will have no idea what it relates to, but know that it's a symbol for cryptos.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The creator of bitcoin is as unknown as batman's identity. The folks at the center of the main blockchain companies and stuff like that all know pretty well who created it, they just play along with the story.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

if this is true, there would be some evidence

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub -1 points 3 months ago

Satoshi Nakamoto is some kind of consipracy...?

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago

They already have that, 💩

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cryptocurrency is speedrunning ruining everything. We might as well have a laugh at the cryptobros' expense in the meantime.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I loved the concept at first, the idea of a decentralized currency all handled by encryption, and transactions permamently stored in a public ledger for all to see.

Then the cryptobros and the scammers caught wind of it and it's all downhill from there.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

If you want the name of a payment techology that isn't snake oil, isn't blockchain-based, isn't a cult, doesn't claim to be a currency, doesn't work on proof-of-work or proof-of-stake, but actually does provide certain privacy guarantees for your basic purchasing needs, is cryptographically secure, and can be used with only FOSS, I recommend looking into GNU Taler.

The only downside is that it's not really supported anywhere at all yet. But I do hope it becomes a real thing some day.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

isn’t blockchain-based, doesn’t work on proof-of-work or proof-of-stake

These things weren't introduced as a gimmick they are used to solve specific problems.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

I would rather point my finger at wall street or financial institutions not at the tools that offers a viable option to avoid these

[–] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This will likely be rejected for one the same reasons that they decided they would not add any new flag emojis. Flags come and go. Bitcoin hasn't even been around for 20 years yet, and its future is highly uncertain.

Also, considered as a currency, it would be better as a regular text character, not an emoji. Like $, €, ¥, £, etc.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I actually don't mind it being added as a text character because then I can actually use it. Using it as an emoji is useless to everyone other than the crypto bros that want to spam it on Twitter.

[–] SloganLessons@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

It already exists: ₿

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Woah way too many emojis already!

😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂🙂😉😊😇🥰😍🤩😘😗😚😙😏

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[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How is it like to have nothing going on in your life so you create a petition about emojis?

[–] smallpatatas@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Uh oh guys, we got a salty bag holder 😂

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[–] Lightrider@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

#bitcoinscam #tetherfraud

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is the government spreading anti-cryptocurrency propaganda or did lemmy got invaded by idiots recently?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is what the overwhelming majority of people believe. No offense, but were you spending a lot of time on r/Bitcoin?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

The majority of people believes what the government makes them believe, so it make sense.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, people just don't like crypto because it's a huge waste of energy that has no use for the average person at the moment and is only used by rich people to get richer without much regulation. Don't get me wrong, it might definitely be useful when used correctly in the future. Not wasting as much energy by ditching proof of work, becoming actually useful for normal transactions, etc. But right now it's just an overhyped technology for obnoxious cryptobros.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, people just don’t like crypto because it’s a huge waste of energy that has no use for the average person

This is actually part of government propaganda to discredit cryptocurrencies.

Lemmy servers consume energy too and half of the content is memes, i don't see anyone complaining about it.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can't begin to imagine just how much energy cryptocurrencies use. A web server can never come close.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure meta or google energy usage is up there but i've yet to see someone complaining about mr.beast or cristiano ronaldo wasting energy with their videos.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe because people value entertainment more than invisible money that won't help them anyway.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

or more like because the government doesn't have problems with people keeping themself busy on entertainment vs them using a decentralized and open currency that can bypass financial institutions

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the government isn't forcing people to watch YouTube and neither of the people you mentioned are government employees, unless you're concocting some elaborate Alex Jones-level conspiracy theory.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You seem to have same comprehension problems or to be in bad faith. Read carefully what i wrote, it's nothing of what you said.

Trying to label everything as a conspiracy theory is something the government and propaganda have been doing excessively over the past years. You may not like it to hear it but every time cristiano ronaldo appears in state media and gets paid for it they are indeed working for the government. When the government put restrictions on youtube competitors such tiktok or when they use it to broadcast official events, they are indeed forcing you to use youtube.

That's not the point of the discussion anyway: cryptocurrencies aren't controlled by the government and hard to control by design, there lies the government interest to boycott them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if it was controlled, it wouldn't constantly fluctuate in value and would actually be worth buying things with without hoping for a day when it's worth more and you're richer.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Countries currency fluctuate in times to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can go to the supermarket next week and milk will cost about the same in dollars as it did this week because the value does not change that rapidly.

Not true with Bitcoin.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can go to the supermarket next week and milk will cost about the same in dollars

If you live in america and you are lucky the price of thing stopped increasing perhaps it will cost the same. If you live in any other part of the world that use a different currency the price may be different

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do live in America and why you think milk costs significantly more from one week to the next I don't know. Even if the price rises, we're talking pennies per week. Far less than Bitcoin fluctuates.

I have no idea why you're even trying to argue that the dollar fluctuates as much in value as Bitcoin because that's just demonstrably false. This is the current fluctuation of Bitcoin value. If the value of a dollar changed by one percent in a day, that would be huge. Seven percent? That would be a disaster.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

JPY to USD +6.70% (1W)

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, idiots bring shitty crypto propaganda and pretend it isn't just an unregulated security pretending to be an alternative currency (that isn't usable as a currency for regular people) while using more energy than entire nations, all for a giggle with a shit coin.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure you are not confusing propaganda with ads?

Cryptocurrencies are quite easy to use, the process to create a cryptocurrency wallet is much easier than the procedure required to create a bank account or a credit card and these days cryptos are widely accepted even as a currency.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Are you sure you are not confusing propaganda with what crypto is actually used for?

I don't care how easy it is to set up a wallet. I cannot take my crypto and go down to the bodega and buy a sandwich. I can't pay my rent with crypto. I can't pay my utilities with crypto.

Crypto is not a usable currency for the vast majority of people.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Before the government enforced credit cards and made them mandatory it would have been really hard to buy a sandwich in bodega with a credit card too. Not sure where you live but these days in most places if you want you can literally pay with all sort of service, they have these big cash registers with the screen that accepts all soft of payment youtubers advertise for.

Crypto is not a usable currency for the vast majority of people.

There aren't any limits that prevents the majority of people from creating a crypto wallet and using cryptocurrencies

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't care how easy it is to set up a wallet. I cannot take my crypto and go down to the bodega and buy a sandwich. I can't pay my rent with crypto. I can't pay my utilities with crypto.

There aren't any limits that prevents the majority of people from creating a crypto wallet and using cryptocurrencies

This is why people laugh at you cryptobros. I literally tell you why it's not a usable currency and you tell me it totes is.

Go back to speeding up climate change with your fake currency and stop trying to pretend normal people are using it to for anything other than unregulated securities trading.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Go back to speeding up climate change with your fake currency

cryptocurrencies provides an open alternative to a centralized and rotten financial system that is at the core of consumerism and the speedrun of mankind into oblivion.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You practically use the energy output of a nuclear reactor to process transactions. So I think you're the ones pushing the expediation of the human races extinction. What's worse is your been obnoxious while doing it.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You practically use the energy output of a nuclear reactor to process transactions.

Every time you pay with your credit card or use an ATM the same thing happen, with the difference that you are not using a decentralized and open source service.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect. I don't use the output of a small town. You use power but nowhere near what cryptocurrencies require.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

I don’t use the output of a small town.

I think you are literally using that since ATM are open 24h

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