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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (11 children)

It's good, for privacy and all of course, but I remember here a Dell BIOS upgrade that basically wiped the TPM2.0 and so windows was asking for the recovery bitlocker key at boot. I have them on a encrypted USB key and anyway I can access my MS account from another device to find the key and type it.

But I'm sure a lot of people will basically say "well, fuck, I don't have the key", guaranteed.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The anti-MS here is annoying. They set up online accounts by default to improve usability and its complaints about privacy. They set up full disk encryption at rest by default to improve privacy and its complaints about usability.

[–] gentooer@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These are valid complaints tho.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

From powerusers yes, and taking away their options is nonsense. But for the general populace it is arguably a good thing.

[–] IHawkMike@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Agreed. The immature iamsosmart user base is making me strongly consider leaving Lemmy for good. There just aren't enough actual professionals here for any serious discussion in a technical community. It's just a bunch of 20-year-olds who think they have the world figured out. And they all downvote based on emotion rather than facts (which I am quite prepared for).

Microsoft accounts, OneDrive, and BitLocker are absolutely great features for the average user providing SSO, cloud storage with ransomware-proof backups, and seamless full-disk encryption.

I love Linux too, but there seems to be no room for nuance on Lemmy. These children are insufferable.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago

This has been happening for a lot longer than just Windows 11.

Several people I've spoken to, who have purchased OEM computers from the likes of Dell, HP, Lenovo and others, did not know that bitlocker FDE was enabled, and they were not aware that they needed to back up their recovery key.

On at least one occasion, this caused someone to lose the contents of their laptop when Windows failed to finish booting into the OS. The drive was fine as far as I could tell, but the content on the drive would not complete the boot up sequence and would bsod/boot loop the system, so data retrieval was not possible without the recovery key, which they did not have. That was a Windows 10 Dell system from 2020 or so.

My opinion is that FDE is a good thing.

My advice is if you have FDE enabled, backup your recovery keys. It's easy, but it won't directly save to a file on the filesystem that's locked by the key to which the recovery key applies. The easiest workaround is to "print" it, then use the built in Microsoft print to PDF, then dump it wherever you want. Afterwards, put it somewhere safe. Doesn't matter where, but anywhere that isn't the encrypted drive. Maybe Google drive, maybe a USB flash drive, maybe email it to yourself. I dunno, just somewhere you can retrieve if that system isn't working.

When you're done doing that, go check the same on your parents computers, friends, brothers and sisters..... If they're someone you care about, and they have a windows computer, check. Get those recovery keys backed up somewhere.

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