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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The reason this is done is because you can see everything your browser is doing, but you can't see everything an application is doing without disassembling it.

I want very much to go back to websites. Apps are stupid.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the reason is children. for some reason the most recent generation of kids requires apps instead of sites. god forbid they have to remember an address.

just look at the fuckload of people who cant use lemmy without an 'app'

this is one of my peeeves

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of the reasons I like apps for Lemmy is for notifications.

Coincidentally, one of the reasons companies like apps is for notifications.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your mobile browser supports notifications per site like an app. It even supports custom icons per site when the notification pops up.

You don't even know if the telemetry leaving your phone to the app server is using TLS encryption, you just let them hail-mary football-throw send it.

I don't understand why we insist on bending over and freely giving away our data to fucking apps.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My high school computer teacher once ranted about this to us. He said the younger students are lacking the basic concepts of computer stuff. They are spoiled too much to not even know what a file browser is.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's the parents fault too for not teaching the kids.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Eeh, I see it as a gray area. Majority of millenials, myself included, grew up learning about novel technologies as they developed. We learned how to use desktop computers and browse the internet during a 'golden age' of innovation. They became part of our everyday lives and are second nature to us. The next generations don't fully have that experience but are expected to natively know their way around a computer since they're so ubiquitous in our lives. In reality, they know how to use smart phones and chromebooks but aren't getting the experience of working on a real desktop computer.

Regarding teaching kids the basics, I'd put it on the schools, not the parents. Do schools still have computer labs? That'd be where proper computer skills should be taught. If parents can help at home that's great, but I don't think it should be expected that every kid is going to have a real computer at home to learn on (versus phones, tablets, chromebooks, etc).

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hate that websites will purposely block a perfectly working website feature if it sees you're on a mobile just to refer you to their mobile app.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

FUCK websites that require a login, i'm looking at you twitter, you need to be sued over this shit.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Insta. Facebook. In fact all social media that only lets me see 3-4 messages before demanding I log in. Fuck. You.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of these memes are ironic, but this one is actually true. These apps could just be websites, but instead they're bloated spyware

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Many of these apps could just be menus.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even menu websites are chock full of Javascript for no reason. It could be a JPEG!

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Menus should be PDFs so they are searchable.

[–] aeharding@vger.social 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you explain this? I'm a very stupid person.

[–] zorblitz@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Voyager started off as a website(wefwef.app) but is now also an app

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Anybody who wants to offer me an open source app that doesn’t spy on me is totally fine, especially when the app kicks ass.

  • sent from Voyager
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unironically this. There's nothing these stupid apps do that they couldn't do on a fucking browser from 2018. If you want people to use the stupid app over the site, then please have only the stupid app and ditch the "just pretending it works" site and for fuck's sake, don't make the stupid app a javascript mess, because THAT could've been a fucking site instead.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Buddy, these apps could have been done in php and ajax 15 years ago

[–] bitball@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

there is an alternate universe out there where every shitty social media website has good rss services and doesn't degrade you for not using the app

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago

One of the most ironic things is if you willingly download the app version of a website, hoping it would speed things up and reduce internet data usage, just for the app to be using WebView or some other micro-browser engine which will essentially be the same as if you were visiting the website using your browser as before.

Thanks for nothing.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TFW someone makes a desktop app but it’s literally just a bundled chrome browser page

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Lychee, a slicer software for 3D printing, immediately comes to mind. It's a fucking electron app. It also only works if you login to a fucking account, even the free version, because fuck you. Oh, and free users have to sit through 30 seconds of advertising whenever they click "Slice", because fuck you again

[–] Staden_@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

An app for a fucking cemetary!? Nuh-uh

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That's how you get a haunted phone

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is here a joke here? All I see is truth.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah someone called it out in the comments.

This template is for over the top exaggerations.

[–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If it ain't on F-Droid, chances are I ain't usin' it.

I think there are a grand total of 4 non-free apps installed on my phone right now. 2 are for smart home crap I don't want to live without right now, and 2 are Google services I haven't pried myself away from yet.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Ugh even my weed dealer wants me to install their app. When will it end?

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it's so depressing if you watch steve jobs introduce the iphone, he boasted how safari offered a rich browsing experience, beautifully rendering the full desktop version with intuitive controls to zoom and swipe around, no janky mobile sites. and look at us now. how we have fallen.

(honestly i think tim cook wrecked the company, he's a pure bloodless businessman, thinking only about numbers and value extraction versus innovation and changing the world, which jobs, for all his faults, objectively did)

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago

Both capitalist pigs