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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So ... can we like finally dismiss Google Chrome as the obviously awful idea it is and which should never have made it this far and remind all of the web devs married to it that they're doing bad things and are the reason why we can't have nice things?

Hmmm ... a web browser owned by a monopolistic advertising company ... how could that possibly go wrong??!!

XKCD Comic depicting a conversation between someone who send an essay in dot doc, MS Word format, and another trying to convince them to use open source alternatives.  The first person is abusively unconvinced, doesn't care about ensuring we have good software infrastructure and dismisses the open source advocate as smug and "probably autistic".  In the final pane, the first person runs to the open-source-advocate second person panicking about facebook taking over everyone's social lives and doing evil things with it, in response to which the second person simply plays their "world's tiniest open source violin" as a clear "i told you so gesture"

[–] Eyron@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Do you remember the Internet Explorer days? This, unfortunately, is still much better.

Pretty good reason to switch the Firefox, now. Nearly everything will work, unlike the Internet Explorer days.

  • Firefox User
[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

There's an easy fix for this. 🔥🦊

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

With Google providing 80% of Mozilla's finding, I think we can all see whats going to happen next.

[–] jakob22@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

The Google payments were never guaranteed for Mozilla. If they didn't have a backup plan in place to reduce spending, that's on them. Let Mozilla return to its garage opensource roots.

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I feel like this isn’t talked about enough. Sure

just use Firefox

But for how long is it gonna work that way until they too deprecate v2

[–] mke@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I think some people overestimate how many will migrate to Firefox in the near future over this.

  • High switching cost compared to finding another extension (e.g. uBO Lite), even if the resulting experience is worse.
  • Just as many Firefox users like Firefox, lots of Chrome users enjoy what they have too. They don't want to lose that.
  • The kind of tech-aware person who'd switch over this is much more likely to have seen the news months ago and taken action already.

As fun as it is to imagine an Adpocalypse shocking the masses and pushing them to try out alternatives to big tech, it's also way too optimistic, I feel.

[–] OriginalUsername7@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The uBlock Origin chrome extension ~~has~~ had 34 million users. Chrome has 3.45 billion users.

Even if every uBlock user switched, it’s less than 1% of chrome users.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Depends on their methodology. Sure, a huge proportion of those are users who haven't heard of uBO, but we're forgetting a lot of caveats:

  1. Electron exists and lots of apps are built on top of it and identify as "Chrome". Judging by the numbers most have been weeded out, but some edge cases do visit more sites so they end up in the count.
  2. A lot of workplaces mandate the browser, which is often Chrome. This also gets counted.
  3. A not insignificant amount of Firefox users change their useragent to Chrome.

All of these skew the numbers towards Chrome. Some Chrome users use a different adblocker which lowers the uBO statistic.

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[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It deserves mentioning that Firefox on Android supports extensions, so if you uninstall/disable the official YouTube app then add uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock you get a more tolerable experience.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Or just use Revanced or Grayjay, both of which are ad free and support sponsor block. Revanced is still a bit more feature complete imo, but also more buggy on my device, and more of a hassle to update. The browser YouTube experience is so bad, ads or ad free.

[–] Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

It literally took me less than ten minutes to set up firefox. I carried all my bookmarks and passwords from edge and set up a mozilla account and everything is synced across linux, windows and android.

The only thing I'm worried of, is if some websites require chrome to work, as was the case with some government sites that only worked with internet explorer in the old days.

(Does anyone know if the default user agent is chrome? I used to log in a local streaming site from edge and it wouldn't work, as it required chrome, but I used an extension to take care of the user agent. On firefox it works no problem.)

[–] BootyBuccaneer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

I recommend the User-Agent Switcher and Manager Firefox addon for those struggling with some sites.

You can also report a broken site to Mozilla directly via the browser menu.

There was another (third-party?) page where you could report websites but I forgot its url.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I'm using the Chrome Mask extension on the few sites that complain

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The browser built to be yours"

Hahaha sure thing Google

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"The browser built to be piping your data into our hands"

There, fixed.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Simple solution. Don't use Chrome.

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[–] THX1138@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheHotze@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] occhionaut@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

This is the way.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There's only 34 million uBlock Origin users on Chrome? So, billions are using Chrome without any ad-blockers? That's crazy and unsafe

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most users are fucking idiots and will continue to raw-dog the internet while visiting the most malicious sites possible.

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel like you've worked helpdesk at some point.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Worked IT. Can confirm.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Unfortunately. "a virus? How did I get that? What's an anti-virus? You must be wrong, I just do a little bit of web browsing and downloading music." (this was in the windows xp days that I'm specifically flashing back to)

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

My boss once asked me to take a look at her computer that was super slow and barely functional, and the thing that surprised me the most was that she had been running Chrome without any adblock since ever, and when I asked her about adblock, she answered: "adwhat?". Mind you that she's still a millennial, and only a few years older than me.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Lemmy has a really biased idea of what the average computer user can do. Imagine Janet in accounting, who calls help desk to reset her password every morning, and takes 30 minutes to remember how to check her email. Or the late GenZ just entering the workforce, who was surprised that their desktop wasn’t a touchscreen, and doesn’t know how a file structure works, because literally every device they’ve used growing up has been either a tablet or a Chromebook. That’s the average user.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I wonder if this leaves Chrome users susceptible to ads that load malware, which has been a problem for the last decade, and a driver of adblocking extension development. You can get spyware and worms from Forbes, for instance.

Adblocking is not just a matter of a cleaner internet experience, but also of good internet hygiene

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[–] seedd@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Those who don't like FF can use brave, it's brave shield works well

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh... I couldn't tell with all the Firefox I use.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Huh... So you're not using the product the article is referring to?

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How long until YouTube blocks Firefox?

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[–] faethon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (10 children)

At this point I am seriously wondering why people would like to use Chrome over Firefox for instance.

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