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Banking apps seem to be a motif among things that don't play well with privacy ROMs. My bank's website does everything I could want out of it. I think I might be ignorant to something.

  • What about banking apps is especially compelling?
  • How often do banks put must-have features behind an app?
  • And should I be concerned that banks might move away from offering services through browsers?
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[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Notifications and Mobile Deposit are the 2 features from banking apps that I find compelling.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can't do anything about mobile deposits, but for notifications, you could get the notifications emailed to you and your email app has push notifications.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they could offer it through the browser. All modern browsers have more than enough hooks and permissions control to do something as simple as take a couple pictures and make a basic request to a back end.

Though making nice things costs money, so...

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Oh, of course they could do so, but they won't do it because they want you to use their app. They want you to use their app because they control it and can mine data from it more so than on a web browser. Take Cime, for example. It has all kinds of Google trackers in it.

[–] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume my email app has push notifications

  • A sad Proton user using a de-Googled device
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Actually, I am in that exact same situation, so I know exactly what you're talking about.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a must for me. My phone is my primary day-to-day computer, so I need to be able to so everything from that. Unfortunately that is also why I'm not using graphene OS, because our government 2FA system doesn't work in graphene OS (even with play services installed) so it's impossible to do anything. I can't check anything WRT banking, schools, taxes, daycare, doctors appointments, hospital record or change anything that requires the involvement of city hall, including checking digital mail from the municipality or government. It's basically not possible to function in our society without it.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, what do older citizens do? Like those in their 80s? Many here do not have a smart phone or mobile.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For banking and other official business, they have to go physically. If their bank has no physical department near them well then it sucks to be them. For digital mail you can apply for exemption and you will get physical letters.

You can order a digital code generator so you don't need the app if you still want 2FA for digital handling. But I don't want to have to carry that with me it would be a significant inconvenience for me.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Wow, that is pretty hostile to the elderly.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Wow, that is pretty hostile to the elderly. Imagine those who struggle to get about? Excluding them from society.

[–] rutrum@lm.paradisus.day 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cashing checks and zelle are the big ones

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Same here, mobile check deposit and Zelle are literally the only things I've ever needed a bank app for.

I used to never use Zelle for anything but too many friends/family want to use some sort of app for exchanging money & that's usually what we settle on. And my old landlord wanted rent paid via Zelle so that was another thing that forced me to install a bank app for Zelle purposes.

Mobile check deposit is a requirement when dealing with a bank without any locations nearby. In practice I only need to use that once a year or so, checks are kind of rare nowadays unless you're a business owner with clients/customers paying with checks.

[–] radamant@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the country. I'm teaching in Thailand and here you can't do any banking through a browser. You can only use the bank's official app and you don't even have a login/password for it, you have to go to the bank and activate the app in person as a foreigner (I think Thai citizens can do it online but foreigners have to do it in person). Nobody takes actual cards for the payment and you pay everywhere by scanning QR codes which has to be done through the app. If you buy a new phone you have to activate the app again at the bank's office. It's really annoying and the reason I probably can't go with GrapheneOS or any other custom roms because the bank app is absolutely essential.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is using cash impossible in daily life instead? It is hard to imagine for me that a smartphone may be outright required for daily life...

[–] radamant@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's possible, just very inconvenient. You end up getting massive amounts of change that you have to lug around to spend.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

Ah, nice to know. I personally consider this a fair tradeoff for freedom and lack of financial surveillance.