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cross-posted from: https://r.nf/post/1771956

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is f*** up. I have no issues donating to my favorite apps. However what they are talking about it pure enshitification plus proprietary software

Also donations can absolutely work

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/05/thunderbird-is-thriving-our-2022-financial-report/

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i am good with the subscription and pay once approaches they mentioned.

the iffy portion is the in-app payment sdk. i hope f-droid will be the one providing those to have it standardized.

in-app ads are kinda okay. i won't use said app, but if f-droid labels apps like those as how it labels apps with non-foss/features-you-may-not-like, it should be okay.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In app ads are very much not ok as they are often targeted and serve no benefit to the user. I have no issue with a donate button popup with a link but we already have Google play for spyware.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure I can be as pliant as others here. Being less of an activist and more of a user of convenience, if I am making PayPal payments somebody better give me a reason why I'm not just using the same store that came in by default with my phone.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How much convenience do you really gain from using the Play Store instead of F-Droid? And is that convenience worth the developers of your applications receiving a smaller cut of your payment or being charged additional fees by Google? Is it worth contributing to Google's monopoly over the Android app landscape?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Those are all advantages for developers and activists. End users don't care or need to care. As an end user the only reason for keeping two stores in my phone is that one does a thing the other one doesn't, functionally. That's why Samsung can keep putting their dumb store on their phones forever but people just don't engage with it.

Now, unlike the Samsung store when I was on a Samsung phone, F-Droid is something I do use, because there is a clear use case there: Play for all the commercial apps, F-Droid for non-commercial alternatives and a stuff that Google doesn't allow on Play for whatever reason.

If F-Droid wants to make a push for being my only store, they better provide all the functionality, support, variety and convenience Play does, because Play comes pre-installed. If I can't go to F-Droid to be guaranteed to not have to deal with payments or MTX, then it better have every single thing I need. I'm talking every game, every app, every legacy piece of software. It better have the same one-click payment convenience I get from Google Pay. And it better still have a default option to search for completely free apps, or I'll have to go find a F-Droid alternative that does that for when I want to be sure I'm not getting any hidden fees with my app.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

We need a way to support foundational open source projects like browsers, a open source subscription platform might be the way.

Start off with apps that are already subscription like vpns.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i'm fine with it as long as the privacy labels remain front and centre when downloading; especially if they clearly mark which apps are ad supported, subscription based, etc and don't prioritize them over foss/ad free

otoh, i use neo store so it probably won't matter

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 3 months ago

I see many issues with that / for them.

But I'm not against experimenting and finding out. We maybe need some free and open monetizing options, maybe also ad platforms. That would give people some more options, instead of relying on Google and Apple all the time.

Please just make it respect user privacy, be FLOSS and categorize the Apps, so it's clear to me what is and what isn't licensed Free Software.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago

Wow, there is approximately 2 people in these comments that actually read the article.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I can't see this go well for them.

I get the idea. I also get not wanting to restrict devs and hence offering all kinds of payment options. But I cannot see this be visible for them given their target audience.

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