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The Moon just now in the UK. No idea what is creating the halo

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[–] skeletorfw@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That would be a 22° halo, a fairly uncommon atmospheric phenomenon where light refracts through hexagonal ice crystals in the atmosphere resulting in an average deviation from the angle it comes in at by around (funnily enough) 22°.

There are lots of other interesting atmospheric phenomena including sundogs, moonbows, and the much rarer 46° halo!

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh nice, I've seen this before in Florida but was unable to capture it in my phone's camera. Didn't realise it had a name!

sundogs

You're just making things up now XD

[–] dirtySourdough@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Though it sounds silly, sundogs are the name of an actual optic phenomena. They appear as bright spots on either side of the sun, aligned with where the halo may appear. Hence, they are "dogging" the sun.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yarp, I looked it up. The etymology section is fun, I like to think there's no real meaning behind it, someone just called it that and the name stuck.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No, that’s updog.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the much rarer 46° halo

If that's the really huge halo that seems to take up most of the sky, I've only seen that perhaps 3x in my life.

Are they not collectively called coronas, in your part of the world? They are here.

[–] skeletorfw@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah that's the one! Only seen it once (coinciding with a supermoon which was frankly surreal).

Coronas are a bit different I believe, though another one of the same group. I've always just called them their individual names, with coronas being tighter and more spectrally-distorting than halos. Maybe the only other collective name I've heard would be the minimally descriptive "atmospheric phenomenon" but that's no fun at all.

Edit: Just took a brief look and indeed coronas are related but formed by refraction through water droplets rather than ice crystals! Cool to know!

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not refraction, but diffraction and interference. The droplets (or ice particles or in some cases even pollen) get so small that light stops behaving like rays at those scales.

[–] skeletorfw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes, that's the one! Thank you

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, that's interesting! Colloquially they're just called coronas here I think, but it sounds like a misnomer.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We saw the same tonight as well from northern Italy about 2 hours ago. The moonlight interacts with ice crystals in the air and creates this rainbow / halo 🤯

[–] ndguardian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if there’s an atoptics (I think that’s the word) community, they’d be all over that!

[–] livus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ice crystals. The old-fashioned name for it is a corona, and according to folk wisdom, a corona of that size is usually a harbinger of cold weather coming.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the 22° halo. A Corona is an entirely different phenomenon caused by diffraction and interference of light around tiny water or ice particles, or other such particles of similar size. Halos on the other hand are formed by refraction. Here's another great resource about coronae (and pretty much every other atmospheric optical phenomenon out there).

You're correct about halo phenomena being caused by ice crystals. As such, they are most often observed when there's Cirrostratus in the sky, and that in turn is often the result of an incoming warm front. The Cirrostratus may start to thicken into Altostratus and Nimbostratus, so overcast and rainy would be the safest bet.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

colder and wetter weather on the way, is what i was told

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it varies regionally?

Where I live, cold almost always comes with some degree of wet, whereas wet doesn't always come with cold because we get the tail end of tropical cyclones.

[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for sharing this. Here's one that I saw a while back

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jupiter just hangin on the right

[–] PlasticQuality7519@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could see it this week even in the middle of London

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah same can see it from Hornsey

[–] superfes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just took a picture of the moon, came out pretty good.

[–] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wow that really is good

[–] open_world@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just an even bigger moon behind it

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's moons all the way down.

[–] doleo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

back before internet days, me and the boys got the fear while out smoking, seeing this in the night sky.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

that's when you start howling and chase the evil spirits away man.. oh right you said smoking not drinking..

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't read any of the other explanations, they just spout off the same thing they want you to think!

I did my own research, it turns out this is due to ice crystals. The inside of the dome set on top of the flat earth is covered by LCD displays. These displays get cold in wintertime and ice crystals form within the displays. This causes all sorts of visual glitches, like these halos around the moon. When it warms back up the ice crystals go away and the moon looks normal again.

Don't let people fool you with bullshit stories about ice crystals in the so called atmosphere. It's a totally made up story, with just enough truth in it to make it believable.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Stretch2m@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

"A ring around the sun or moon, means that rain will come real soon." Old sailors adage.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Well, I mean, it is close to us.

[–] BoBTFish@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I took the same picture walking the dogs earlier!

Also that's Jupiter on the right, we got Uranus on Friday

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Have Spartans recently landed nearby perhaps?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No idea what is creating the halo

If not the cloud cover or other atmospheric conditions, the lens of the camera the image was taken with. Was the halo visible to the naked eye or only in the photo?

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not op and I'm not near them but I saw the same halo with the naked eye last night with zero clouds.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

If you're far enough north, ice crystals in the atmosphere create a halo like that.

[–] unoriginalsin@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

It's just moonlight shining through the buildup of the day's chemtrails.