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In response to concerns that the new r/homeautomation mod team could overlook posts with dangerous misinformation, the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit's sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn't know why.
Oh Lord
Thank God I wasn't the only one who went WTF. That's like one of the simplest things I learned as a mod in my first 2 days. You gotta update the sidebar twice for both versions of it. It's been over a month since they probably took over and they still don't know this.
I love this article but it also makes me sad like with the old r/canning mods pointing out the unsafe material the new mods left up.
Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about "rebel canners," which Dromio05 argues "gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning." The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.
Another cited example is this recipe for canned sauce. It includes already-canned tomatoes, which experts like the National Center for Home Food Preservation (NCHFP) recommend against, as there's no safe tested process for this. The recipe also includes nuts, though the USDA doesn't have any recommendations for canning nuts, and NCHFP and other experts advise against canning any nuts besides green peanuts.
No comment. Moderators are the key to Reddit's success, and they have been treated like shit and will continue to be treated like shit.
Jesus. I can from time to time, I used to be a regular on /r/canning. The attention to detail re food safety was one of the best things about the sub, as you really can kill yourself and others if you piss about.
Botulism is nothing to fuck around with. I'd rather play with something safe like burning thermite than that stinky crap ever again.
Won't someone think of the poor landed gentry!?
How did volunteers who run reddit's for-profit business for them for free end up equated with landed gentry?
Wow! Who knew when you kick your volunteer mods who curate content for you for free to the curb that overall quality would decrease?
the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit's sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn't know why.
Wow this is the part that made me laugh the most. One of the first things I learned when as a mod was that you had to change the side bar in both old.reddit and the newer version since they both have different sidebars.
I never even realized that the loss of whole mod teams could make this simple feature unknown by the new team.
There are a huge amount of redditors these days who have no idea old reddit ever existed and the first time they heard of 3rd party apps was when Reddit announced they were pricing them out of existence. Naturally, a lot of those people are going to become mods now and their ignorance about fundamental aspects of the site is glaring.
This is only tangentially related but I started using reddit 13 years ago and the userbase has become increasingly unrecognizable in recent years. But what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as "an app"... It's bizarre to me that so many people's exposure to reddit is limited to the worst way to possibly use the platform (the official app).
Well yeah, when reddit just picks up whatever volunteers yell loudest, they don't exactly get experienced mods. Those people all left reddit already.
I also have the feeling that the comments started to suck a lot more. It's starting to feel like comments on Youtube or Instagram, not like real people having a somewhat reasonable discussion about the topic.
Yep, interactions are definitely becoming more toxic. Indeed it starts to feel like youtube. I adopted Reddit at fisrt because of how friendly the community felt. That was 8-9 years ago and that time is clearly gone. Lemmy is nice, I hope it will keep growing.
I can't put my finger on it, but I think there's been an uptick also in posts purely in the form of increasing engagement. Safe 'bets' on getting responses (i.e. ++ to AskReddit), remarkably bland headlines, and just shit that reminds me of controversy of the "jumpstart" of automated bots they used in the earlier days.
A lot of suspicious "wholesome" posts on all, too. Seems like an astroterf to make the whole thing more digestible.
Mods weren't ever supposed to anybody but janitors. That isn't in a derogatory tone. The anonymous userbase was the original value proposition of reddit. The expertise came from random nobodies. Usernames didn't matter on reddit because nobody looked at it. It seems this is long forgotten history from a time when the internet was primarily IT nerds.
By the time mods were becoming somebodies, reddit was past its prime. Once the power structures started forming it was over. As we're seeing now reddit is hinges on single point of failure. The expertise among the userbase has gradually left the platform long before this API stuff. A long slow process years in the making.
Internet janitors are a dirty but necessary job not unlike the real world. Somebody has to scrub toilets and pick produce. People are a-holes on the internet who need to be put in their place. Reddit has long since become too hoity-toity for that. Now mods are supposed to be experts in their field. Too high to be digital toilet scrubbers. Too scared of "muh free speech" to janitor the Greater Fuckwads anymore. So reddit is an asylum run by the inmates. Expertise can't be assed to contribute to a dumpster.
On another note. The imgur purge has also contributed to the barren wasteland of reddit content history. So many dead posts.
But you can't be a 'janitor' on a sub like r/canning without understanding canning. You can't know who is posting unsafe information unless you know what is unsafe. That's the problem.
Thank you for using canning as an example. This is a excellent choice because it is a situation where people think they know what they're doing and they are just basically posting recipes for botulism. On Facebook there are the rebel canner groups and in those groups you're not even allowed to mention the word of botulism or the mods will ban you. Because even warning somebody that something is unsafe goes against those communities standards. Canning is a prime example of where the admins have to have actual knowledge to pull off the job.
It is more that Reddit wanted its moderators to not be anyone important, especially under the current CEO. Ditching the default subs, firing Victoria, heavily maiming r/all, and other actions were geared to prevent mods from gaining power over Reddit. On the flipside, Reddit maintained the mod ranking based on when a mod joined specifically to keep communities from forming more legitimate methods of mod selection.
Mods were supposed to be weak while being scapegoats for Reddit in case something went wrong.
Every couple of weeks I come back and check lemmy to see if the top post isn't about reddit. Not yet.
I'm fine with this - many of us were on Reddit for over a decade and had to cut cold turkey when they killed the site. We're here hoping Lemmy will replace it, so feels natural to speak of the old "shell" site.
Yeah, it always feels like asking about an ex girlfriend. I want to not care, but it's difficult not to.
Also, whether or not one uses reddit/twitter/Facebook, the state of social media is worth discussing, its important.
Sir this is !reddit@lemmy.world
That, plus articles from Ars Technica discussing Reddit generally get a fair bit of traction on this community because it's a semi-big name publication discussing Reddit in a negative light, which further confirms the stance most users on Lemmy already have about Reddit
It's one of the biggest trash fires of the century, watching petulant fuckwits tear down functionally competent institutions and replacing them with nazis, spam and sockpuppets. certainly deserves the attention it's getting.
great job musko and spez, you idiots
That's a bit misleading. This is the first top post about Reddit in quite a while; it's nothing like it was here a couple of months ago.
I've been off Facebook for >5 years now but I still comment on news about fb
To be fair, the content quality on Lemmy has been about the same from what I've seen.
Bots all over the place, low-effort quips instead of discussions bubbling up, lots and LOTS of low-quality armchairing, personal attacks and flaming instead of actual discussion....etc
It was good for a month or so during the reddit 3rd party app purge, but quickly went downhill.
Look at the quality of mods they're getting.
The r/diving subreddit got a mod who claim to be an avid diver with 21 dives across 7 oceans. And the subreddit drama link
That mod is hardcore powertripping, lol. Why do people get so puffed up for being essentially forum janitors? At least 4chan mods could take it on the chin when the community made fun of them. Reddit mods have the thinnest skin and the arbitration skills of Judge Dredd.
Probably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.
Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?
Insert pikachu face
I think I've seen this effect. Felt a bit smug when I saw a post of r/linux talking about how the quality of the posts was so poor after the "reddit migration".
I've noticed it too that the quality of posts in certain subreddits I cared about just felt a lot more 'empty'. Which is both good and bad. Good cause Reddit got what they deserved and people stuck to their morals by dispersing to more federated communities across the web; but I also feel a tad sad that the subreddit championing a vision I want to see that took a long time to get there is now gonna leave a way pooer impression on anyone looking to join.
But eh, I'm not sure many if any people's mind on trying out Linux were decided due to a reddit post before. ( Feel free to tell me otherwise if I am wrong on feeling. )
The purpose of reddit is to keep people engaged while seeing ads. That's it.
What's reddit?
I think it's a website for people to ask celebrities whether they will fight horse sized ducks or duck sized horses.
I've noticed a huge increase of ragebait AITA posts every time I check the front page. They're all pretty similar - disowning a child or deciding not to attend a wedding. And people fall for it every time. It's kind of sad to see one of the smartest places on the internet turn into social media junk food.
Is that why 90% of everything is the same unfunny reposts from 80 years ago now?
I know we all are in rage about reddit’s fuckery, but this says nothing about the state of the website.
we already knew reddit was not the objective truth or wikipedia, but mostly an echo chamber. incrementing the check on the information objectivity will NOT hamper reddit’s growth. we’ve already seen other social media thrive without the weight of fact-checking or their intended purpose (facebook, instagram, I’d dare to say the new twitter as well).
I as all of you would love to see reddit bomb so badly that they’ll all end unemployed and spez under a bridge sleeping with cardboard sheets, but that’s not going to happen soon.
we should stop looking at how badly is reddit doing, and start watching at how to make Lemmy a better reddit instead.
Turns out purges make everything shittier
