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The map contains exact locations of homocides from the 2000s to now. You can zoom in far enough to see the neighborhood the murder(s) happened in. I'm sorry that the site is primarily in Norwegian, but you should still be able to zoom around. Wonder of there's a global map that's that detailed.

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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 282 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And that's why it's important to look at these numbers pr capita in a given area if we want to draw useful conclusions

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Which also requires additional consideration for low population areas that can have their statistics swing wildly.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, like when there's a remote mountain town of five people and two of them get murdered.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 23 points 5 months ago

Hell, even one is 20% of the population!

[–] Droechai@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like the insane murder rate in Midsummer County? (If the tv serial is a valid source of murder incidents)

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If Scandinavian homicide serials were accurate there would be nobody left!

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You ever notice how the third map's actually different? How there is suddenly a red dot down at the bottom about where San Antonio is?

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I was gonna post this if you didn't, lol.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All I'm seeing is if you're in the northern half of Norway, stay away from water and you won't die.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

stay away from water and you won't die.

I've actually found the opposite to be the case worldwide.

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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)

With the data I have at hand, people mostly seem to die in them.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is that cities were made by governments in order to control the population, and to some degree reduce overcrowding? /s

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Most people die in hospitals. – Avoid hospitals if you value your life. /s

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[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’ll believe it when i see it

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good old /peopleliveincities content.

[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But... these people are dead.

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

/peoplelivedincities

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I am a data scientist and I found an interesting pattern, hear me out...

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] authorinthedark@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

we learned our lesson the first time, time to put more cops in the dark areas where murders will cripple Norway permanently

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Did you mean Homicide map, or is it indeed called a Homocide map?

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Well, there's one terror attack that happened on the island of utøya, apparently 69 people were killed

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)

On Friday 22 July 2011, Norway was hit by two terrorist attacks. The bomb attack on the government quarter and the mass murder on Utøya are the worst acts of terrorism in Norway since the Second World War. The attack was politically motivated.

The perpetrator wanted to hit the state, the Labor Party and the party's youth in AUF.

At the AUF camp on Utøya in the Tyrifjord, 69 people were killed. 32 of those killed on the island were under the age of 18. The two youngest were only 14 years old. It took just over an hour from the time the police received information about the shots on the island until the perpetrator was arrested.

There were a total of 564 people on Utøya when the terrorist attacked. 495 survived by hiding in buildings, under dead friends, on mountain slopes or by swimming ashore.

The perpetrator, Anders Behring Breivik, is serving a sentence of 21 years in prison. In court, Breivik admitted to having committed the murders, but he pleaded not guilty.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

If I remember correctly, the police failed to arrive quickly because he bombed a government building in central Oslo. When they did arrive to the general area, they found out that the amount of equipment they had to bring with them caused them to exceed the weight limit of the boat they used which in turn flooded the engine with water. To add to the series of unfortunate events and general incompetence, they were forced to travel 3.6 km to the island instead of the planned 600m, adding delays to their arrival.

I remember the days after the attacks as I couldn't attend school due to many of the teachers losing their children at Utøya. Many of the teachers I had resigned as they couldn't bear the weight of lost family.

It still messes with me even though I was 6 or 7 when this happened, and wasn't directly affected. I can't think of how much pain those parents had to have endured

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh I remember that, that was awful. He specifically wanted to kill children.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

IIRC, he also wrote in his diary about going to clubs and having one night stands, but it's OK because God will forgive him because of what he's about to do.

A Malcom Reynolds quote comes to mind: he's a monster who thinks he's right with God. That quote needs to be used more.

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[–] Microw@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that red circle around Utøya is really sad 😞

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[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Wow, Sweden is so much safer! \s

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How do I report murders that aren't showing up on the map? I've tried refreshing a million times and I'm 100% sure the murders are finalized?

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried turning the victim(s) on then off again? If that doesn't fix your issue I suggest you call tech support. Their local hotline is 112, and if you're looking for the international one it's 911. Both lines are toll free.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Hmm, that's weird, they missed one.

What?

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, look how safe Sweden is! Not a single red dot!

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Note to self, don't visit Olso, visit Stockholm. /s

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[–] Trashcan@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Well.... It's not "Norway has a map of murders", but a newspaper in Norway has made a map of murders in Norway.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The closer you are to Denmark the more murderous you become...

[–] Muscar@discuss.online 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Out of envy of their happiness. You only become more murderous the closer you get while still being outside of Denmark, as soon as you enter the country the murderous part of your brain detaches from the rest and slides into your mouth, which explains the way they talk.

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[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Interesting that this map also specifies who was the victim.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I assume it's to humanize the victims of homicides, rather than portraying them as mere statistics on a spreadsheet.

Kinda sad tho

[–] LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How is this possible don't they have to keep them anonymous?

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago

Here's the reason for why the data is public (according to them)

This is why VG publishes an overview of all Norwegian murders

All murders have ripple effects. For the immediate family, for the local community and for society at large. VG has mapped all murder cases from 2000 to the present day.

Openness about who, where, how and why people are killed is important in order to be able to conduct a knowledge-based debate about murder as a social problem. It is only when the public knows what is happening that it is possible to implement preventive measures.

In recent years, a number of miscarriages of justice have been uncovered. VG believes that openness about criminal cases and legal processes is an important safety valve for avoiding prejudgment - and strengthening legal certainty for both victims and suspects.

Through its work on the report series "The unsolved deaths", VG revealed in 2023 that the official Norwegian statistics on unsolved murders were missing several murder victims. This underlines the need for an ongoing public overview of all murder cases - regardless of police assessments.

This text was translated to English using deepl. Here's the original article

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 10 points 5 months ago (6 children)

The Nordics are generally less reluctant with personal data compared to e.g. Germany.

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Homicide* ... unless you actually mean homocide.

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