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[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 194 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, their use of 'THEN' rather than 'THAN' indicates that they'll soon adopt the socialist agenda, so there's still hope!

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Oh that is just beautiful.

[–] KmlSlmk64@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually now understand what was meant, because of your comment! I was like Why do they want to receive socialistic agenda later? Incredible what difference a wrong a/e can make! (I'm a non native english speaker, but I think it bothers me/I see it more than the actual natives)

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Glad I could help, in a fun way!

Then/than and loose/lose mixups bother me every time I see them and it's "fun" to interpret them as written rather than as they intended!

[–] KmlSlmk64@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I mean, is that you made me realize what they actually meant, because I've read it as is.

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[–] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That fellow clearly just wants to become a heavily radical leftist, so he wants to maximize the jump he makes on the spectrum! Good on him!

/s

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (20 children)

This is just basic psychology. It takes a long time to change someone's political beliefs, and it isn't effective to just argue with people, even with facts. Interestingly, one way to get people to change their opinion is to frame things in terms of how it affects them and their family.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It took me...I'd say 2 years from being a full conservative to a left-leaning independent. And then another 2 years to being a moderate to progressive liberal.

It does happen. But some people are so rooted in their political identity that they will never change.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago

That’s pretty much the process I went through ~20 years ago. The individual has to care about actual evidence and truth rather than the “truth = agree with me” crap that is common.

I think a big, big part of it is realizing that the people on your side are not necessarily arguing in good faith just because they’re on the “correct” team.

And that’s a pretty big deal when “just ignore that, it’s not real” is a deep core practice of your team.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

Also: One conversation might not change someone completely but it can be part of a process. Be happy when people open up and don't try to convince everyone at once. Leave them with a good feeling, that will be more effective than having all the facts right and be angry with them. They will more likely think about it and change their view eventually (looking at you Alex, the first vegan I ever met and who left me with a good impression)

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah but usually people aren't this self aware

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems best to facilitate people's ability to change on their own. Plant seeds of cognitive dissonance and walk away.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think cognitive dissonance is a bug that they would take to realize they are wrong. But it is a core feature of far right ideologies

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

Exactly, and to anyone reading this: the absolute DUMBEST most useless form of communication is insulting someone you don't agree with. I see it way too much here to be honest. All that does is make you feel better (masturbation) while it makes the recipient more defensive, less inclined to listen, and it reenforces their beliefs that the "opposite side" is just full of angry ignorant people.

If the purpose of your attempt at communication was actual communication and understanding then insulting someone is completely antithetical to that.

[–] s_i_m_s@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hey covid will still kill you even if you call it a hoax.
Rep: you God damn liberals are ruining this county Several family members die
Rep: they died of pneumonia not covid covid is a hoax and a Chinese bioweapon.

Like I can't tell that they actually give a fuck about reality anymore even when they can directly see it killing them they still deny it.

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[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile people still saying they’d rather be intubated than having taken a vaccine, cursing it with their last breath. Repeated story countless times in hundreds of hospitals

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile people still saying they’d rather be intubated than having taken a vaccine

I only wish they get what they ask for.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't. Fuck intubating them, fuck admitting them to the hospital at all, that's room that could go to treating someone not dying from the consequences of their own actions.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This picture sums it up pretty well too.

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[–] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmaoooo just in time for Thanksgiving dinner. 😆 Good luck to all the lemmings out there who have to deal with conservative family members today/tonight.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

To those that are about to dine, we salute you!

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 year ago

*than

Unless you meant that all conservatists gladly convert to socialist views once confronted with true information.

That one word changes the meaning of the meme drastically. ;)

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where in the US is there socialist agenda?

Our choices are either a stripped rights corporatacracy or full on fascism.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but these people think nancy pelosi is a socialist.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Medicare, Military, Social Security, Minimum wages and bailouts for banks and billionaires. All forms of wealth distribution but god forbid your country actually implement national healthcare in a way that truly benefits everyone.

[–] sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

social democracy =/= socialism

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The core values of libertarianism: (god I wish I saved the original reddit comment, oh well I'll paraphrase)

"Yes it's fascist pseudoscience with no basis in reality, however it's still a useful theory so I'm going to continue to believe it"

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[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Ok genuinely This has to be satire

Please I beg

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This has to be satire, right?

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

You'd like to think that, but I've heard multiple people say "better wrong than liberal" without any sarcasm over recent years. This is absolutely a belief of some.

[–] powerofm@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poe's law: on the internet, it's nearly impossible to tell.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bipta@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I really doubt it. Have you seen reality? I wish the whole thing was satire.

[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

it was some dude on Facebook responding to a post about fake news

I don't think it was satire

[–] shani66@lemmy.comfysnug.space 4 points 1 year ago

I've seen it enough that it could be a meme or it could be a disturbing trend.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It says then not than, the person wants to be enlightened

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