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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter what the headlines or the opinion polls say. Vote like democracy depends on it!

[–] qwertilliopasd@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I voted for that bowl of tapioca once and I'll do it again.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I'll likely vote someone else in the primaries though.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe their strategy for getting votes could be something better than "the other guy is worse".

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Would I be a bad person if I said I don't want to vote for either of the evils, and I'm going to vote for Williamson? Or West? I genuinely feel guilty voting for either side and I hate that feeling.

EDIT: Ok then, I will do the right thing, not for Biden's sake, or that asshole Drumpf, but for us, the american people who are caught in the middle of this shit. Thanks to everyone who chimed in.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Of course they could lose them. They are senile and old. They probably lose all sorts of shit

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

To who? The convicted felon? Or maybe it's that Florida governor who is pissed off the largest Media company in the world?

[–] 9thSun@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

My problem is that since the first time I've been able to vote, the Democratic party has shown they don't care about who the people may want. They will actively suppress whoever isn't their chosen one. And there are cases where they fund ads for their crazy opposition instead of building a meaningful case for their candidate. I voted for Biden originally, and I will not vote for Trump now, but I need more than "vote for me because I'm not the other guy", especially the second time around. If Trump wins, it's because the Democratic party shot themselves in the foot. Party cohesion is made by leaders who listen to their constituents.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The government would work a lot better if all the old fucks stopped trying to make everything a petty competition with winners and losers.

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[–] themachine@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Biden could have done what’s best for the country and been a one term president. I’ll still vote for him but not because he’s some amazing leader or anything.

So they did it to themselves if they lose.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I see that point of view. Out of curiosity, though, do you think there’s an obvious next in line on the bench? The only person I can think of as a no brainer for electability is Michelle Obama.

Edit: I’m confused as to why my comment has been so controversial. I think it’s because people are misreading my claim. I am saying that Michelle Obama is obviously one of the most electable alternatives to Biden. The polling corroborates this. She is well liked and has 100% name recognition. Seriously, even if you hate her, as an objective empirical fact, she is obviously one of the top contenders for electability.

I am not claiming that she is likely to run or that she wants to run, etc.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At the beginning of his term, I'd have said they were lining up Harris; black, woman, young, and they made her highly visible in the first few months. I thought for sure they were going to spend 4 years lining her up for 2024. Biden would gracefully bow out citing his age, ride the 1/2 term election cycle, and badaboom: first female president.

And then she faded away. I don't know what happened; she didn't poll well, or do well, or polling showed D chances sank without an old white guy in front... but it makes me kinda sad, because I thought it was a good strategy, and it'd be nice to have a run of diversity in the White House.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz -1 points 11 months ago

They made her visible with shit no-win issues. She was put on securing voting rights, fixing the border, and recently solving gun violence. Meanwhile the big spend-money bill passes and she's no where to be seen. I also thought the intention was for her to inherit from Biden, but then they kind of just screwed her over and over.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Imagine thinking that Trump is in any way, shape, or form, better for you and your family than Biden.

Conservatives and Republicans: hate working class people, hate people that rent, hate minorities including women, want to privatize every last piece of American society so you'll have to subscribe to your alarm clock and appliances.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The "Biden sucks" narrative is a little out of control at the moment. I hope his team pivots to highlight all of his successes around the time Trump is getting tossed in prison. That should hopefully be enough juxtaposition for even the most terminally online idiots in this country to not vote for the meme candidate again.

Part of the problem also is that centrist Dem voters are single issue queens and will refuse to turn out if they don't get their way on certain issues, and a lot of them are drawing lines in the sand over Israel/Palestine right now. In case anybody hasn't be paying attention, let me assure you, Trump will not end the war in the middle east. If anything, he will accelerate it. If you're unhappy about Biden supporting Israel but calling for an end to hostilities, boy are you going to be upset if Trump takes the White House and endorses full-on genocide of Muslims in the west bank and complete Russian supremacy in Ukraine.

[–] Leyla@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This mentality of picking between worst options isn't very appealing. Better y'all vote for some third party (even if they don't win as whole)

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

that's almost the worst thing you can do in a two party system, short of not voting at all. It sucks that the system only really allows two parties but throwing away your vote on a third party is not the way to fix it

[–] Leyla@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why it is a two party system?

[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_splitting

Our election system is inherently biased against 3rd party candidates. So we're stuck with two parties.

And money's involvement in politics just exacerbates everything.

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