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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16374600

Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 80 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sad to see 'cause it feels like we need Pirate Parties more than ever.

[–] PiratPartiet@feddit.nu 5 points 5 months ago

Yes it is sad, but we Pirates need to stay strong even in the worst of storms! If you are unsure where your local pirates are feel free to send me a DM and we will try to find them together!

[–] kbal@fedia.io 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

#ChatControl and #EUGoingDark . None of this has even been discussed in the run-up to this election.

Increasingly it does look like Europe really is going dark.

[–] safesyrup@lemmy.hogru.ch 44 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Right-wing populism is on the rise through the whole continent, it‘s scary. I can feel it here in switzerland and can see it in neighbouring countries like france and germany.

[–] NeonWoofGenesis@l.henlo.fi 46 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Here in Finland the Left Alliance increased votes by 10% while True Finns(hard right party) decreased support massively across the whole country. Only one true finn got voted in.

So at least we got that going for us...

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 16 points 5 months ago

The Swedish Social Democratic party (supposedly staunchly left wing) are the ones behind Chat Control 2.0. So just voting for left is not a guarantee we actually get sane MPs in the parliament.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Call them by their chosen name. Basic Finns.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 21 points 5 months ago

It is surprising how much the landscape changed in just 5 years. All the right wing parties got a boost, but most importantly, the ultra right and christian right parties. All those are surely going to want to implement ChatControl and measures like that because "We need to protect our children!"

I'm also scared of all the new Q-Anon type parties that last time didn't even exist and this time won a few seats. Ultra right conspiracy theorists that now have more seats than even the pirates.

Also look at the results from Gernany or Austria. AfD and Orban. Pro nazi and pro russian parties. We're going back in time for a remake.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why everyone's so hell bent on turning the EU into yet another authoritarian mass surveillance state.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

My guess is funding from Russia/China and libertarian foundations run by Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers

Because they want to be authoritarian mass surveillers.

Yes. Germany just elected Hitler again. Watch out.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is sad. Aside from his normal MEP duties, Breyer did incredible journalistic work on the EU plans on centralizing incredible power and creating a digital hellscape in Europe. They are planning to go full CIA on us.

[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago

patrick breyer was mvp

[–] Proteus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a massive blow. Still, Czech Pirates have a bit of representation, so all hopes on them.

Those are the dark times, but the black flag will rise again.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

unfortunately czechs dropped from 3 to just 1 seat 😒

so, all hopes on her. but definitely no pressure 😂

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 5 months ago

It's a sad day. E.g. former MEP Felix Reda did incredible work around the time of the 2017 EU copyright reform and helped the protests through transparency.

Now with the risk of badly written laws enabling (atm. restricted) surveillance, we'd have needed them more than ever. Luckily there's still MEPs from the Czech Republic in the EU parliament.

[–] JVT038@feddit.nl 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I considered voting for them, but I didn't.

The reason is because there are other parties with comprehensive plans for digitalisation / IT stuff PLUS lots of other plans for healthcare, economy, infrastructure, etc.

Pirate party seems like a party focused on IT stuff only, whereas I also care about other topics, such as international trains, subsidizing healthcare, improving education and lots of other things.

(I voted for Volt Nederland BTW)

[–] PiratPartiet@feddit.nu 7 points 5 months ago

Well as a represenetive of the Swedish Pirate Party I can only speak for them. But here in Sweden we don't only focus on "IT stuff", but also things like for exampel Immigration, Education, Klimate and Cultural politics and allot more! And from what I have understood from our fellow European Pirates they do to! Maybe not all but if they don't have it yet I'm sure they are working on it! And I'm sure that if you where to talk to them they would love to hear your thoughts and opinions!

After all we are all equals on the Pirate Ship!

And if you are interested in what we Swedish Pirates stand for you can check it out here in English!

https://piratpartiet.se/en/policy-areas/

[–] American_Jesus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I voted for Volt Portugal, Pirate party wasn't an option

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I voted for the Pirate Party but I'm probably gonna vote for Die Linke (eng.: The Left) next election

[–] clark@midwest.social 15 points 5 months ago

Oh well. I did what I could and cast my vote for them. Don’t regret it, though, for my first time voting.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is so fucked up.

We need to use other methods than voting. We are so close to a complete surveillance dystopia in Europe. And it is already really bad.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Meh. It could be worse... It will be worse

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago

Look at the USA, UK or countries like China. I think they're all ahead if us. Leading in different fields. A skewed balance between capitalism and citizens rights, surveillance in general, and a dystopian surveillance state.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We need to use other methods than voting.

Funnily enough the French are from Europe and they put forth some handy tools!

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago
[–] ex_06@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

Don’t worry

In Italy we have voted for Ilaria Salis and she has heavy hands that tend to go on the fascists faces lol

I dream of a royal rumble in the parliament

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is Pirate Party a nickname or do they actually call themselves that?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 5 months ago

They call themselves that

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] clark@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 2 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't say so. Digital rights, online privacy, etc. apply to everyone, not just people sharing files on the internet.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this vote was a disaster... I didn't vote for them but its really hard to see them go

[–] fu@libranet.de 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Maybe I should have. But fighting fortress Europe seemed more important (not to say that pirates don't do this, but their focus is on digital topics). The strategy of connecting with the non Parliament left and making carola rakete second of the list by the left party gave me the impression that they would be a better choice.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I felt my vote needed to be aginst the extreme right. The pirate party is more of a secondary needs party, once primary beeds have been taken care of. Digital freedom isn't worth much if you're living under the threat of fascism regarless.

[–] fu@libranet.de 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] asphalt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah that was my thought