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They didn’t notice that in ‘16?!?
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They did. But now he’s taking money from the wrong people instead of the right people.
Conservatives have party loyalty, not MAGA loyalty. They ignore the majority of Trump’s ramblings as long as he favors free market, tax loopholes, and covert bigotry and racism. Being “soft on China” adversely impacts the US market, so they spoke out.
I’m surprised the left isn’t more behind distancing the US economy from China. They’ve been committing genocide for longer than Russia and Israel.
Conservatives have party loyalty, not MAGA loyalty.
GOP has had two wings since Nixon came up with the Southern Strategy; the money people and the church people. The church people love Trump unconditionally. They will dump the GOP in a second if the GOP moves away from Trump.
I like to use this analogy. The GOP is like a high school with the teachers being the money folks. Trump was the new football coach who won a lot of games by feeding the team steroids and meth. Now the teachers are trying to figure out what to do now that the students are burning down the school.
Absolutely. Trump’s stimulation of the party really simplified the difference now. It’s as simple as the difference between covert vs. overt bigotry.
Here's a quick taste of Lee Atwater.
He was Nixon's creature, and hung around for a long time. Helped create the dog whistles Nixon used and Trump surpassed
Thanks. I’ve read about Atwater, but I’ve never heard that interview. Yeah, he was despicable alright.
For fun, look up Nixon era mystery writer Ross Thomas. He started out as a Washington reporter, then became a novelist.
"The Fools In Town are On Our Side" may be the dirtiest politics book ever written.
"The Porkchoppers" is a close second.
I’ll check them out. Thanks!
How many are “outraged?” And are they so outraged as to consider not voting for him? If not, this story is meaningless.
Hold on, they're not that outraged, let's not get crazy here. After all, every single one of them flip flops every single day. How else can they be okay with being followers of Christ that support a racist rapist felon?
It's still an interesting story. Even if 99% of his cultists stick with him every bad decision he makes peels some away.
For real, the GOP already appointed his daughter*-in-law* (corrected) to co-chair the whole fucking party. Their outrage is entirely political kabuki.
*daughter-in-law
I mean I know some conservatives who already were feeling very lost about the election since they can't bring themselves to vote for a felon. I think the cracks have started appearing for some people.
What conservatives are outrages?
The ones pretending to be outraged.
Ones that want to also be able to make money grifting
No they're not
The shorter list is what politician isnt for sale?
Bernie, the Squad and maybe a handful more in Washington.
Basically, the ones who don't take corporate PAC money and who routinely speak out against billionaires are at the very least much LESS corrupt than those who keep making excuses for being beholden to both.
I believe matt gaetz has also refused pac money
Pedo Matt Gaetz?
I'd believe he's CLAIMED to do so, but reality has a way of rarely matching any of his claims.
Bernie, the Squad and maybe a handful more in Washington
They may not take PAC money but they defend the actions of those that do
Yeah, that sucks, of course.
The reason why you're being downvoted here is beyond me. Surely, everybody understands, that vast majority of politicians are "for sale", and maybe only a handful of them have any decency at all.
Probably the usual contingent of pro-establishment neoliberal lemmings that roam in large herds across all of the political groups, pretending that only the fascist party is ever wrong or corrupt, while being a Dem is to automatically be pure and good and right about everything 🤷
Thankfully, they usually get outvoted by people without their blinders, like seems to have been the case here 🙂
At the time of my comment, the OP's comment was losing at the ratio of 1:2.
Yeah, they tend to all happen at once and then other people come later and rectify it so that the truth they abhor usually ends up with a positive score.
Yeah they used to call it the twitter outrage effect or something similar. The people who respond quickest are usually able to do so because they are the least active in offline society. But hey it makes me enjoy the downvotes, because like you I’ve seen what makes those same folks cheer. These same people will tell you “blue no matter who” is nothing like being a “MAGA cultist” despite it having the literal same basis that the “others” are so dangerous we can forego any and all complaints and should stay silenced to win “or else.”