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When will be your "this is the last fucking time I'm voting for the 'lesser of two evils', then I don't care after that, let this country burn to the ground"? For me, this is basically it. This is last election I'm going for that " lesser of two evils" bullshit. After that I'm done. It's just pointless. Let's hear it.

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[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i dont vote. somewhere along the line some dumbass thought it would be a really good idea to pull jury nominees from the voter pool. jury duty is a complete waste of my time, it pays absolute dogshit, and I've never really had much trust in the justice system to begin with - so I am not registered to vote in the state I live in. the week before I plan on leaving for greener pastures, I will register to vote.

[–] Teon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

In some states they also pull from DMV records.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Jury service is one of the greatest services you can perform. You don’t have much trust in the justice system? For that one case you can help ensure it’s done. Take it seriously

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Imagine trusting the 'justice system' that slabs out Black folk and slaps the cops that killed them on the wrist

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[–] Papanca@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I will always vote (but i'm in europe)

[–] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It should have been in the 80's. If those lesser evil folk bit the bullet and refused to vote for whatever shitty candidate they had at that point them maybe the Democratic party wouldn't feel so comfortable shoveling Biden down our throats. It is 100% the fault of past Democratic party voters that we're in this situation and it could have been avoided.

In a purely 4-year cycle, it is better to vote for a Dem because they'll be slightly better. But since we repeated that 10x already, the Dem has gotten to be so horrific that it isn't worth it anymore. It's like trying to decide how much grain to use to feed a village and how much to plant for the next season. In the short term, it's better to feed the people and reduce the amount planted next year. But we did that so much that now there's no more food.

Boomers fucked Millennials and Gen Z with climate change. Gen X and Millennials fucked over Gen Z over with lesser evil voting.

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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Basically when I don't feel like there are plans for immediate sweeping terrible decisions that will take decades to undo

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

2020 was the last time. I'm abstaining until either party can put out a candidate who will actually help me or the American "experiment" reaches its natural conclusion. I really don't care anymore.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Two cycles ago. Motherfuck Amerika, motherfuck the electors putting their thumbs on the scales to invalidate millions of votes nationwide, and motherfuck everyone who justifies propping it up too. I'm not cosiging genocidal colonizers; if that means the country falls, then the country deserved it. Die nameless.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The blessing of having MMP is .. you don't have to vote for a lesser evil! You can actually vote for a good option!

I did! And they didn't get in because Money! It's fucking awesome!

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Sometimes they get in though, at least it's not structurally completely sewn up like in the US.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'll keep voting for the less evil option until I'm physically unable to vote.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno, pretty much my entire life it's been choosing between degrees of evil in one party and degrees of capitalist greed sucking from another. None of the alternative parties have fielded a candidate I could support either, but that's not the point

The point is that there aren't two evil parties. There's one of those, and one other party that's full of shit, but not evil. Then there's a bunch that are just useless because we have a first past the post system. Not that any of them are exactly bastions of goodness, even the ones that are closer to my views. They're all fucking politicians. Never fully trust anyone that wants that kind of power and authority.

But, let's be clear here. There's only one party that literally courts neo-nazi votes and works to undo not only legal rights, but human rights.

[–] blightbow@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vote for useful things and voting reform at the local level.

Vote for whatever keeps the system itself functioning at the federal level. If one party's leaders are in bed with "presidents for life" or the authoritarian governments that were ratfucked to make them presidents for life, you are going to end up with a president for life.

Important to note: If enough states enact voting reform at the local level, you no longer need a constitutional amendment to have voting reform that influences the federal level. If you are looking for real change, this is where it is. It is slow and unsexy, but don't bitch about your federal vote meaning nothing if you're not doing anything with your local elections.

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