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Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I don't want any of it!

Next phone I buy I want to start with a clean slate, I'm not going to affiliate with any conglomerate like Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile etc, I prefer to go rogue somehow,

which smartphone do you recommend that has no bloatware and it's customizable?

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[–] tanakian@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"smartphone" doesn't matter. it is a computer that runs software. the only question is who controls that software? free/libre software is by definition one that you control. and what you described means that you dont control your device.

so advices: easy way is to just install lineage os or graphene or some other open source android version. you will control it. i dont advice to install google play services.

other advice: you can get a sony phone because it can run sailfish os. also i believe those are great. otherwise install open source android, lineage or something.

sailfish has android emulator (it costs money) but sailfish is not android. it is a linux/qt based system. very polished. not as polished as open source android, but it is fast, lightweight and beautiful. native sailfish apps arent feature rich but do you really need feature rich? then you can get more apps from fdroid store and use android emulation layer.

other, better but harder option: get a device which is well supported by postmarketos.

postmarketos has several user interfaces but neither of those is what you have used to. i believe it is the best option but you must prepare yourself to be able to change. most probably you wont have a working camera. thats ok, i live like that.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Google Pixel or Nothing phone

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[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

PInephone! A bit of work, requiring to not being shy opening the hood of a linux system. but totally worth it, the reward is freedom and its continuous cycle of collective learning...

(although the Pinephone is not really a "smartphone" in the sense most people use that word: a restricted computer that allows to run wallgarden applications.... a pinephone doesnt natively run "smartphone apps" and is more like a full-blown, general purpose computer running GNU/linux that also contains a modem enabling calls, sms and data...)

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[–] p3eySEmuoexo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Murena phones are basically Fairphone with /e/OS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki//e/_(operating_system) with IMHO compare to GrapheneOS.

Their privacy features are really good. It replace Google Services with an open source equivalent. Not sure I can deploy Google applications.

The result is a smartphone mostly degoogled, a good UX and you 'feel' the privacy features without being annoyed by them.

EDIT: changed "completely degoogled" to "mostly degoogled".

[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Murena phones are basically Fairphone with /e/OS

One of the main features of Fairphones is that they are easily repairable - it doesn't look like Murena has done anything to make it easier to fix.

[–] p3eySEmuoexo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it is the same hardware. Only provided by a company preloaded with /e/OS. It is not easier to repair, it is the same.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Gigaset. I am using the GS5. 2 Sim slots and a SD card slot, not those Sim/SD slots that most manufacturers use. Replaceable battery.

made is Germany, run stock android. Stock to the point of I have it bugging me to install Oct 2023 patches for the past 2 weeks. Kinka wish I could talk it I will patch when I get back from holidays.

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