"Died of high chili consumption"? Is this actual English? Those words don't seem to fit together that way. I feel like if this were a real thing, Thailand wouldn't exist.
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It seems like a more accurate title would be "died of high capsaicin consumption due to a heart defect".
That's still misleading. He died of a heart defect exacerbated by high capsaicin consumption.
Any high stress event could have exacerbated the heart defect.
Ya but this headline gets the clicks and that's all they care about
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There was an arstechnica article on this topic TLDR:
The newer 🌶️ pack so much 🥵 that we discovered too much capsaicin can cause feel bad effects in the body.
Thailand wasn’t built with ghost peppers and above. We never had 14million scovilles per bite before.
Edit: found it https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/09/teens-death-after-eating-a-single-chip-highlights-risks-of-ultra-spicy-foods/
Capsaicin is a crystalline structure. Pure capsaicin is 16 million scoville units, and is a crystal. I highly doubt there's any food that anyone is eating that is 14 million scoville units per bite. That would require 87.5% of the food to be crystalline.
It’s a powder flavoring applied on top of a chip.
People don’t eat huge chunks of salt any more than they are eating chunks of capsaicin.
If we can salt chips, we can probably capsaicinize them too.
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How hot Thai food is, is somewhat overblown. It's the hottest regularly served food in the world, but it's not hotter than some people enjoy. Their "spicy" comes from red and green chili's, ginger, peppercorn, and garlic. By far, the hottest of that group is the red chili's, but those are around 200,000 scoville. I can eat those and not break a sweat.
The one chip challenge was a lot hotter than any Thai food. Hotter than any of the other challenge or worlds hottest "x" that I've tried (friends and stuff gift me these types of things a lot). I've bought a lot of sauces that are hotter than it, and it still didn't have me wishing for something to drink. My mouth just doesn't react to capsaicin as much as the average persons.
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So he died of a heart defect, exacerbated by high capsaicin intake.
Thank you for fixing the headline! 👍
As a chili pepper lover myself I absolutely do not get this garbage trope of treating chili pepper consumption as some kind of contest. The idea is to add heat to your food - not prove your pathetic "manliness."
In my opinion, anything above Habanero is just pointless masochism for no good reason at all.
In my opinion, anything above Habanero is just pointless masochism for no good reason at all.
Idk man I agree otherwise, but tolerances rise. And different chilis taste different. Habanero has a nice, sweet taste, and naga yolokia has a bit sharper taste.
So it very much depends.
I don't try to make "hot" food, but wanting a bit of heat in every meal has lead to my tolerances rising and Habanero just not cutting it for proper heat. (I think the heat is good when you ~~almost~~ feel it in your nipples.)
(I think the heat is good when you ~~almost~~ feel it in your nipples.)
Sorry what?
When the food is so spicy that at first you start sweating a bit on your face and then the heat slowly spreads from your face. So at the point when it's enough to reach your nipples, the spiciness of the dish is just right.
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idk sometimes it's just fun to eat something really hot, especially with friends
my dad and i did the 1 chip thing a few years back and we got a fun time and a funnier video out of it. not much more to it really
I think ghost peppers have fun uses and the Carolina reaper almonds from diamond are actually delicious and not that spicy (guessing they use very little). I agree that the mega potent stuff is better used for spicing up a 3 lb pot of chili.
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As someone who regularly eats 1million+ Scoville chilies and sauces, these chips ain't nothing to fuck with. It gave me the absolute worst stomach pains I've ever had, it was like the flu but worse. There's gotta be something in those chips that at a level that's not normal for peppers.
Yeah well, this guy was apparently trying to eat a whole country?
I've been getting those stomach pains lately trying to pursue the amount of heat I like in my food. I finally decided I just needed to take a break from spicy food to reset my tolerance.
Though, I was watching the series Superhot, and it seems that the stomach pains are pretty commonly associated with eating a lot of those types of super hot foods. So, I'm guessing it's just from the sheer amount of capsaicin on those chips. It's pretty much just capsaicin extract at that point.
Maybe, but I eat a lot of stuff that are mostly pure capsaicin and none of them mess up my stomach like that. And with this chip the heat in my mouth wasn't as bad, but my stomach pain was much worse. That makes me think something else is responsible.
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Its not a challenge if you can't fail
This happened in August 2023.
I don't get why anyone likes eating super spicy foods. After a certain level of heat there is no more flavor, just spice, and it clearly can cause serious problems for your body. What is the draw?
It being dangerous is extremely rare, and the extreme heat can give a pretty big endorphin rush.
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You build a tolerance to the heat as you eat more and more spicy food.
After a certain level of heat there is no more flavor, just spice...
Again, your tolerance is what dictates the accuracy of this statement. I think Paqui chips taste terrible, the spice level has nothing to do with it. But, as the other commenter mentioned, you pursue this level of heat because you enjoy the rush it gives you. If you can handle the spice of super hot foods, you either need a ton of peppers (which just makes your good taste like peppers), or you need something insanely hot to add, so you can maintain the food's good flavor, while also having a satisfying level of heat.
The draw is the rush.
As someone who loves super spicy foods:
Heat doesn’t alter flavor. Capsaicin itself is flavorless, so if you just take a food and add capsaicin extract, it’ll increase the heat without changing flavor.
However, IMO there’s no point in doing that unless you’re trying to win a challenge. Most of us get capsaicin from peppers, and each pepper has a unique flavor that can add a lot of nuance to a dish.
Plus, I enjoy the heat sensation and am highly tolerant, so I can eat high heat foods and enjoy them. I would not recommend a spice-naive person start out on super hots.
Because you get used to it and what was super hot a few months ago is just a little tingly today. So over time you eat hotter and hotter stuff.
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Large doses of capsaicin can increase how the heart squeezes, putting extra pressure on the artery, noted Dr. Syed Haider, a cardiologist at MedStar Washington Hospital Center.
Is it the nerves or the muscles of the heart that have this reaction to capsaicin? And does it only target the heart?
I don't think it's a direct reaction. I think it's much more likely that capsaicin induces stress and that messes with the heart.
I am an adult, and I do like spicy food, but I'd like to throw in that this chip is fine. It's spicy, but not crazy. It was hot for a few minutes and then not hot.
I'm more surprised that the article affirms that large amounts of capsaicin can be physically damaging in some way. I've never heard of that before.
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He tried to eat Chile? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile
This story has been edited to conform to AP style: chile, instead of chili.
WTF???
They actually changed it on purpose to be stupid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile_(disambiguation)
“Chile may also refer to:
Food
Chile pepper, the spicy fruit of plants in the genus Capsicum”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_pepper
“Chili peppers, also spelled chile or chilli”
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