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I know what the Creative Commons is but not this new thing or why it keeps popping up in comments on Lemmy

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[–] april@lemmy.world 150 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

It's meaningless bullshit if they think the AI companies give a shit about copyright

Even moreso: When you post online you typically give the website a license to distribute the content in the terms and conditions. That's all the license they need, it doesn't matter what you say in the comments.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah just adding a link to your comment doesn't negate the TOS of where you post it.

~~ Hey you can't use my ramblings!!! ~~

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[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 130 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Because people don't understand how copyright works.

In most countries any copyrightable work that you produce is automatically covered by copyright. You don't need to do anything additional to gain that protection.

Most Lemmy instances don't have any sort of licensing grant in their terms of service. So that means that the original author maintains all ownership of their work.

So technically what these people are doing is granting a license to their comment that allows it to be used for more than would otherwise be allowed by the default copyright protections.

What they are probably trying to accomplish is to revoke the ability for commercial enterprises to use their comments. However that is already the default state so it is pretty irrelevant. Basically any company that cares about copyright and thinks that what they are doing isn't allowed as fair use already wouldn't be able to use their comments without the license note. So by adding the license note all they are doing is allowing non-commercial AI to scrape it (which is probably not what was intended). Of course most AI scraping companies don't care about copyright or think that their use is not protected under copyright. So it is again irrelevant.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 94 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Ding ding ding. It’s basically the equivalent of that “I don’t give Facebook permission to use my statuses, pictures, etc for commercial purposes…” chain letter that boomers love to post. It has enough fancy legalese and sounds juuuust plausible enough that it’ll get anyone who doesn’t already understand the law.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It reads like a sovcit claim.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 months ago

That was my thought as well.

Now that I understand it, I'll be able to block the bloc of boneheads.

I know that a broken clock is right twice a day but using a broken clock is just dumb. Out of the 1440 minutes in a day, it gets 1438 of them wrong? Broken clocks get binned.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 124 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's the internet equivalent of a sovereign citizen putting a fake license plate on their car.

The ones they're trying to "protect themselves" from do not give a shit.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 71 points 6 months ago (3 children)

By reading this comment you have entered in to a binding agreement to pay me $1000 per word.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I am not reading your comment, I am simply traveling through it with my eyeballs. Also your comment doesn’t have gold fringe and therefore lacks jurisdiction.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

For God's sake, it's not even all caps in 45 degree angle...

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a plastic screen in front of my phone screen so I read the plastic and not the agreement.

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[–] PrincessTardigrade@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT!

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 11 points 6 months ago

You didn't use my corporate name. Therefore, your contract is non-grata null and void according to the Articles of Confederation section 22B.4.22.

[–] Polarsailor@kbin.social 75 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember when all those boomers were making Facebook posts about how they don't consent to Facebook doing the things in their terms and conditions?

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

I remember that shit. Most of them thought that Facebook "going public" meant that everyone could publish their Minions memes without permission. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 67 points 6 months ago (2 children)

2 bucks says commercial ai is still being trained on those comments.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It would be pretty funny if GPT starts putting licence notices under its answers because that's what people do in its training data.

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 19 points 6 months ago

Yeah it harkens back to seeing people make those posts on Facebook about how they don't consent to having their data collected and urging others to do the same before some imaginary upcoming deadline.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 months ago (26 children)
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[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 months ago (13 children)

It's a fundamental misunderstanding of how you automatically have copyright on any written work you produce, and how it's unclear whether any sort of licensing even applies to training data in the US.

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[–] x3i@kbin.social 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Check if you actually saw multiple people or if it was always just a single user called internetpersona. They are the only one I saw doing that but are quite active here, so you might get a wrong impression. Imo this is completely useless.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 months ago

I've seen 3 separate people. Including that guy you mentioned. Reminds me of the Facebook copy pasta lul.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I dislike it but merely because it normalizes having to sign content with an anti commercialization license to refuse to have your data harvested. Contributing to AI should be opt-in.

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