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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 108 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If they rule he does I promise to riot every day. There won't even be a point in maintaining the status quo as such a ruling would invalidate democracy

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 76 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If they rule Trump does then that means Biden does too. It would basically be giving Biden a license to ship them all to Guantanamo. Might be the only thing that holds back such a decision.

[–] radiant_bloom@lemm.ee 53 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ship them to Guantanamo ? You’re too nice. If presidents have immunity, Biden could strangle him to death with his own bare hands on live television if he wanted to 💀

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Live on Pay-per-view & you've got a deal.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't even illegally stream that. I'd pay full fucking price.

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well Senate could convict him after being impeached.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

He could just ignore all that shit, claim immunity, and refuse to leave office.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Biden would never do that because him and the Dems in power still worship the status quo and see Trumpism as a minor hiccup in their peaceful balance with the Republicans. The left will continue to get steamrolled by the right because of ineffective leadership.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Euh, for you, Biden is Left? You should check out what left and right mean in politics IMO.

Also, I don't think "the dems" do everything to keep some sort of imaginary balance, but because they are less terrible people, is all.

European here.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

what is subjectivism?

Biden is the de facto ideologue of the only meaningful, most-left-leaning political body in the U.S. Calling him "right" (which he is globally) within the context of intra-American discussion would be unnecessarily confusing. Everyone relevant in this comment section understood my message.

[–] just2look@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

The Overton window in the US it’s absurdly far right. So not actively working toward fascism is the left.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Sound counter argument. I have no rebuttal.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Biden wouldn't do shit and they know it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If they rule Trump does then that means Biden does too.

No it doesn't. I guarantee they will do all the Olympic-level mental gymnastics necessary to craft the bullshit opinion in such a way that it applies to Trump but not Biden.

[–] bquintb@midwest.social 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If they do, Biden needs to immediately pack the court and remove lifetime appointments.

He should be doing it already IMO

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Removing lifetime appointments to the supreme court would require a constitutional amendment, which... Good luck with that.

Even increasing the number of justices on the court would need congressional action, which isn't going to happen in this Congress.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

If Trump gets immunity, I'm becoming a terrorist.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They haven't botched anything as far as they're concerned. The court agreed to hear the case so they could delay, that was clear when they didn't act on the request to expedite.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 69 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that they did not immediately respond with "No, the president doesn't have immunity from criminal prosecution. They are not royalty." tells us what the eventual outcome will be.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. They could decide they must come to that conclusion, but only after delaying long enough so the answer doesn't matter.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

If they do make that decision then he could still be prosecuted while in office if reelected, which is how the system should work.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 7 months ago

I don't think anyone expects anything good to come from the current lineup in the SC.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

"Botched" implies that this was done by mistake. This wasn't done by mistake.

[–] shininghero@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The only thing that got botched is that thumbnail. Why do the Roman style columns look like an M.C. Escher painting?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Because that's what the image looks like. It's not the thumbnail's fault.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

seriously - wtf is with this graphic.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

What's wrong with that?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Botched isn't the right word when they meant to do it.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

How about Borked?

[–] RichardoC@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is that image AI generated? There are a different number of columns at the top compared to the bottom

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's by Javier Jaén, he's new to me but some pretty neat stuff. It's worth checking out his website. The Almodovar teaser made me laugh.

[–] statingtheobvious@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Here’s the website: javierjaen.com

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

I don’t believe it’s AI generated, but was manipulated so the gaps between the top pillars become the pillars along the bottom, and vice versa.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In Brazil, the former president Jair Bolsonaro, after baselessly claiming fraud before an election, was successfully prosecuted in a court and barred from running for office for years.

To get to a trial and avoid any further potential delay, Mr. Smith may decide to limit the government’s case to its bare essentials — what is often called the “slim to win” strategy.

And Judge Chutkan has already warned Mr. Trump that his pretrial unruly statements with respect to witnesses and others may result in her moving up the start of the trial to protect the judicial process.

Justice Juan Merchan, who is overseeing the Manhattan criminal trial, and the New York appellate courts offer an instructive model of fair and expeditious case management.

Politics and law are often seen as separate institutions, but in fact they regularly interact within our constitutional system as checks and balances — unless, as is the case here, the court takes on an overbearing role.

The Supreme Court’s review of the immunity issue delays indefinitely a jury trial of Mr. Trump’s role in obstructing the peaceful transfer of power — and therefore risks transforming our nation into a Potemkin village of democracy that bears the surface trappings of legal institutions but without actual checks on the executive branch of government.


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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

On purpose.