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I don't think that we're in a simulation, but I do find myself occasionally entertaining the idea of it.

I think it would be kinda funny, because I have seen so much ridiculous shit in my life, that the idea that all those ridiculous things were simulated inside a computer or that maybe an external player did those things that I witnessed, is just too weird and funny at the same time lol.

Also, I play Civilizations VI and I occasionally wonder 'What if those settlers / soldiers / units / whatever are actually conscious. What if those lines of code actually think that they're alive?'. In that case, they are in a simulation. The same could apply to other life simulators, such as the Sims 4.

Idk, what does Lemmy think about it?

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[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's an interesting idea but inherently impossible to prove and thus ultimately kind of a useless question for anything but entertainment. I think it's really not much different than believing life is a very elaborate dream and you're going to eventually wake up as a butterfly or whatever.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 2 points 1 year ago

It's trippy to think about. The only things we know about existence are through our own experience, so there's basically nothing about our reality that we could say proves we're not in a simulation.

By that logic it seems probable that we are in one that could be ran by any civilization only moderately further along the scale of time and technology than we are. I don't think it would change whether I thought life was worth living or not, but it would certainly be weird to imagine somebody could be watching what you're doing at any given time.

[–] ani@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one knows. I just find this universe too imperfect. It's nonsense. I just want it to end.

[–] Leg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perfection is stagnation. It's the entropic nature of reality that provides the vehicle for change and will to manifest, allowing subjective experiences to exist. If anything, I'd see this as evidence of a simulated reality, as it's suspiciously convenient that this is all here for us to experience the way we do. You wanting it all to end sounds like more of an internal battle than external to me, and yours is a scary worldview.

[–] ani@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's just too much suffering in this world. Why have a simulated reality with people torturing and killing one another, making living animals suffer so we can eat them, animals brutally killing one another. It's just nonsense. I myself am constantly haunted by a traumatic experience, unable to be happy. My view is eflilism if you haven't heard about it.

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Think more dwarf fortress and you have the way I look at it

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's secular metaphysics and ultimately doesn't matter. Kinda black mirror if your RTS shotgun guys are conscious know that they will be deleted to free up memory.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your mind is gonna conjure up anything it can to make sense of the world it lives in.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think if you take a kind of birds-eye view (i.e. The proverbial forest) of the world around us without putting effort into understanding the granular nature of the individual things (i.e. the trees) around us, then one of the takeaways could be that we exist in an otherwise chaotic universe, which might give rise to this thought that we're living in a simulation. β€”That said, the world isn't chaotic, not really. It is an incredibly complex group of relations and things, and most of it has little concern for us as individuals.

Some of us sometimes struggle to see the forest from trees. Others of us sometimes struggle to see the trees from the forest.

There's a big ol' beautiful world out there beyond our computers and the games we play. It's worth going out and studying a lot of it.

-What would be the implications if we were in a simulation? would it matter?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Life is not a game.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You know, whenever this theory is discussed, everybody seems to assume that this simulation that we're allegedly living in is supposed to be an approximation of the parent universe, similar rules, but probably lower fidelity (basically the sims).

I think we should forget that assumption. It's human centric. Who's to say that the entity running the simulation even meant for it to be a simulation at all? Given our universe appears so much bigger than our pale blue dot from the inside, if our universe is a program running in a parent universe, I doubt that we - homo sapiens - are the point of it, or it'd be leaner, more focused. We'd be the center of the universe. But at every step of scientific discovery, we've found that that isn't true. We're just noise, sand on the beach, dust in the wind. If we live in a program, I doubt that the person running it is even aware of us specifically as a species, let alone as individuals. I doubt that they're specifically aware of any particularly galaxy, in the same way a neural network developer isn't aware of any specific weight in their model.

Granted, you could argue that that the rest observable universe is an illusion, a wilderness mural painted on the walls, designed by the simulation operator to make us think that we weren't in a zoo. But that sounds a lot like "God put those dinosaur bones there to trick us", so personally, I doubt that's it.

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