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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

>they think they can escape a repressive political climate and bleak economic prospects in the US

This is what happens when you watch too much TV.

[–] coleandfries@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

While true, and I am hardly a simp for laws and political climate in the US, for me the key distinction is that in the US (and other liberal democracies) you at least have the agency to do something to improve your situation.

Those who have not lived under oppressive authoritarian regimes don't have the lived-through perspective of hopelessness that comes from knowing your hands are bound, and there's not much you can do to get out of the situation, outside of migrating to another country.

Now the reality for regulatory capture and smooth talking politicians convincing people to vote against their best interests in the West may not in reality result in really personal agency, the mere prospect of being allowed to do something about your situation itself is a powerful motivator.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Give it a few years, we'll understand real authoritarianism soon enough as Americans.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New Sinophobic article just dropped:

Chinese people don't have agency, anonymous source told RFA

Half of Americans may be living paycheck to paycheck and burdened with unplayable debt, but at least they have the agency to change their situation

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

It's not some race thing but about what sort of political situation there is. Geez.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

My life will never get better and I live in hell, fuck off with your "you at least have the agency to do something to improve your situation." There's nothing I can fucking do either!

You only have agency if you have money. I will never retire unless I take out a 9mm plan.

[–] Uvine_Umbra@partizle.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh, the USA is bloody awful, and they know. You think the CCP isn't playing up American dysfunction any chance it gets?

They're leaving for a chance at a better life, not the best. You can think about the "best life" once you have a better one.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

There's a really tragic documentary where a similar thing happens to young kids from Central America so they do the trek up alone because they are essentially just believing Hollywood propaganda lies about the US.

Which Way Home. I really recommend it.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder what the net worth and "business" background of these migrants is.

Canada for example got a wave of migrants from Hong Kong after 1997, most of them private business owners and wealthy individuals who didn't want their capital to be "oppressed."

[–] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think Chinese nationals are getting this impression of the US from state television? Lol

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

From US television, duh.

Do you think China is a hermit kingdom and no one there watches anything that isn't approved by the state? Get real lol that shit is unenforceable in a developed country like China

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

The bot summary misses one key point: why this particular, difficult route?

The route is viable for Chinese immigrants because they can fly into Ecuador without a visa.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

U.S. citizens moving to Mexico in record numbers, govt. data shows.

For Balance

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


SAN DIEGO (AP) — The U.S. is seeing a big increase in Chinese immigrants arriving using a relatively new and perilous route through Panama’s Darién Gap jungle, thanks in part to social media posts and videos providing step-by-step guidance.

Chinese people were the fourth-highest nationality, after Venezuelans, Ecuadorians and Haitians, crossing the Darién Gap during the first nine months of this year, according to Panamanian immigration authorities.

“They’ve lost hope for the future of the country,” said Cai, who now lives in the U.S. “You see among them the educated and the uneducated, white-collar workers as well as small business owners, and those from well-off families.”

Those who cannot obtain a visa but travel to the U.S. by crossing the border illegally to seek asylum usually unite with relatives and friends in major cities such as Los Angeles and New York, where they will find work and establish a foothold.

Some migrants who enter the U.S. at San Diego wait for agents to pick them up in an area between two border walls or in remote mountains east of the city covered with shrubs and large boulders.

U.S. Border Patrol agents sometimes take migrants who have been processed to a transit station in San Diego, where they can charge phones, snack, browse piles of free clothing and get travel advice.


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