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[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeste_Maloy

Niece to American terrorist Cliven Bundy, cousin to wanted American terrorist Ammon Bundy...

Yeah that should be a no from all of us dog...

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, one can't exactly choose one's relatives. Not that this one really deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes but then you see what she supports and it's the same stuff as her terrorist relatives...

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 7 months ago

Well yes, but that'd be a no regardless of who she's related to

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 7 months ago

Breaking News: Crazy white Republican Mormon from Utah is super racist and hates immigrants or brown people! In other news, water is wet.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Aside from the Fourth Amendment violations, the family separations, the astronomical costs and hyper inflation driven labor shortages in ag, construction and service industries, it will go swimmingly.

[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 4 points 7 months ago

America has shown that Amendment rights are not concrete and will be ignored when convenient. As for the economy, they profoundly do not care.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Ignorant racist fuck is republiQan, film at 11.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
[–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I recently watched the following program on PBS: Nazi Town, USA which described the rise of fascism in America at the same time as the Nazis in Germany. It was an eye opening experience and one that has a hauntingly similar essence to our current situation in the USA.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I consider myself well educated but never knew anything about this. Hope you find it enlightening!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Why wait until November? Get off your screens and onto the streets! Pack your capital with people all demanding this insurrectionist traitor be barred from running and removed from the ballot! Nothing gets shit done like the threat of violence! Just like they employ on us every day!

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Let’s deport this bitch and half or Utah while we’re at it. I think all these fucks should go to some maga freedom farm island somewhere deep in the Atlantic and just stay there rubbing trumps nipples

[–] maculata@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

She should be put into her be there f those camps as soon as possible. Stupid bitch.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm all for people trying to find a better life, and I understand why they come here. Unfortunately, those very same people breaking the existing laws are stoking the flames these ignorant and bigoted assclowns use to sow racial division via their idiotic arguments. The more people that come in illegally, the more these arguments make sense to certain people.

We need better immigration control, that is for sure. We can't just let EVERYBODY in. What that looks like, I have no idea, but the vast majority of people making it in to sidestep certain immigration laws are not using the proper channels now anyway, so things seem completely broken. This is not just people walking across the Southern border either, there are plenty of wealthy folks from elsewhere sidestepping the laws as well.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Asking for asylum is not only legal in the US, but in international law. To seek asylum you must stand on US soil.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Seeking asylum would be the "proper channel". Just walking across the border is not the same as requesting or applying for asylum. This is my point exactly.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How would you get to US soil to seek asylum?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are ports of entry specifically for this purpose. https://www.rescue.org/article/it-legal-cross-us-border-seek-asylum

You don't need to sneak into the country and THEN request asylum. You could also drive, fly, or boat, just so long as you declare your request for asylum at the proper port of entry.

I'm not here arguing the law, or the process, this is just how it is at current, and has been in flux for decades. The problem is that the more people don't follow these procedures, the more the anti-immigration lobby gets their point made and succeeds in all the fear mongering tactics they employ.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, first you have to have an appointment for a point of entry, and in the US you could wait weeks, if not months for that date. But, think what you must.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

No. As the link says, anyone requesting asylum at a point of entry will not be turned away. Before you start spouting equally as ignorant shit about the process, get informed. You're just as idiotic as the bigoted assholes on the other side of your argument. Be better than that.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To my understanding, the majority of undocumented immigrants are here legally, seasonally. They just don't return to their home country in whatever off season for their industry is.

So it is important to remember that many of the "illegals" we are dealing with, are only sometimes illegal. And I hate saying it, but during the off season, they are very likely to be victim of literal slave labor, either through lack of payment, paying an illegally low amount, and even human trafficking.

Whenever fox news starts showing videos of buses of migrants coming to the border with the federal government doing nothing, that's just footage of seasonal farm workers entering the country.

We are dealing with a humanitarian issue with global causes and consequences.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Again, my point is not about the why/how people come here. Just about the people who may be twisting the reality for their own purposes. I'm just talking about the mechanics,, not the justifications.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Someone figures that the fascists will never get down the list and that “…and no one spoke for me” won’t apply.