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[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You think the entire populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military?

Also, entire cities in Southern Germany were entirely wiped out. Munich was re-built from the ground up.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I mean, even taking the IDF's numbers, proportionally, the IDF has killed far more civilians than the Allies in WW2. The IDF's estimate is that they've been killing 50% civilians and 50% combatants, while in WW2 the Western Allied count was about 10% civilians in Europe, and 33% civilians in Japan. However, the wars being fought are very different, so I find that a less compelling comparison than the sheer level of destruction leveled in such a short period of time.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget the fire bombing of Tokyo, I think they killed around 100K civilians in a city where most of the houses were made of wood and paper.

Around 100K casualties in this bombing only and over 1M became homeless. That's next level evil along with the atomic bombs for sure. And I don't find any justification for any of those bombings.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

In Tokyo it's because the Japanese didn't have conventional factories; the people would make weapons and other things for the army in their homes, so Tokyo was basically a giant military factory. Of course whether that justifies the fire bombing is another story, but yeah that's the reason.