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Senate Democrats propose 1-year Obamacare subsidies punt in new shutdown offer (www.politico.com)

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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer laid out a new Democratic counterproposal for ending the government shutdown: attaching a one-year extension of soon-to-expire Affordable Care Act subsidies to a spending stopgap that would reopen agencies.

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“This is a reasonable offer that reopens the government, deals with health care affordability and begins a process of negotiating reforms to the ACA tax credits for the future,” Schumer said. “Now the ball is in the Republicans’ court. We need Republicans to just say, ‘Yes.”

The offer generated some quick GOP backlash, however. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) posted on X that it would unduly benefit health insurance companies to blindly extend the subsidies: “Another year of insane profits at the expense of consumers and American taxpayers,” he wrote.

Schumer’s counteroffer came after Democrats met privately for hours Thursday to try to find a path forward that would unify the caucus. It’s a shift from the start of the shutdown, when Democrats included a permanent extension of the Obamacare subsidies in an alternative to the GOP-led continuing resolution that passed the House.

Shortly before Schumer’s speech, a group of roughly a dozen members of the Senate Democratic Caucus — including the No. 2 leader, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois — met in a Capitol basement office. The group included senators who have been negotiating with Republicans about a path out of the shutdown, as well as other Democratic senators viewed as potential swing votes.

A person familiar with the conversation, granted anonymity to describe the private discussion, said that “tone and approach” of the senators in the meeting “doesn’t reflect what you see on the floor.”

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What I am saying is that I think online leftists really badly want to pretend this isn’t partially on them too, like they weren’t doing GOP campaigning for them and like they did their best to try to make the DNC more progressive by force, when really all they did was bitch that they didn’t change, bitch when they were in office without 3 branches and a super majority and didn’t accomplish what it would take just doing illegal things to accomplish, and who are now bitching that the democrats they didn’t support enough to give significant power arent doing super hero feats to solve this.

Your post could be summarized as:

"Never hold Democrats accountable for anything, as they will always be able to cite the 60 vote rule in the Senate. Completely ignore the things they can don't do that they could do with the power they do have. Just keep voting Democrat forever. Voting for the good team is more important than actually making policy changes."

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Never hold Democrats accountable for anything

You're already so off base you completely missed the point of my comment.

Its not "Never hold Democrats accountable for anything". Its that you shouldn't shoot off your own leg to own the DNC. Thats the mentality of a lot of online leftists. They are willing to actually shotgun the chances of the changes they want to see being successful in order to punish an organization that largely and clearly, even in their own opinions, runs contrary to their goals and is incentivised differently than their feelings of anger and rage would have them act.

"Holding democrats accountable" by making them lose, is cutting your own legs off to splash some blood on their Louis Vuitton; Its stupid childish shit that hurts real people. They care way more about not doing what you want than they do about losing.

You can accept that reality and accept that the best and by far most pragmatic way to react is to primary people, vote in state and local politics and continue to campaign for a party you know is somewhat antagonistic to your goals, or you can chop your legs off and basically do free marketing for the people who actively want to hurt you as opposed to passively wanting to take from you, keep taxes on the rich low, etc etc.

There are no magic third options (that actually work or are possible).

as they will always be able to cite the 60 vote rule in the Senate.

They won't if people stopped the foolish infighting and instead just tried to take over the party from within while supporting them when it comes the time to fall in line. Thats the reality of that situation. The reality is that the filibusterer exists, and will continue to, and that it will continue to be an excuse they use.

Completely ignore the things they can don’t do that they could do with the power they do have.

No it does not. Firstly, they actually do a ton when in power, and secondly the things they don't do but should, we don't ignore. We just weigh the options without thinking like angsty teenagers ready to cause self harm just to get our parents to notice us.

Just keep voting Democrat forever. Voting for the good team is more important than actually making policy changes

What this ignores is that voting for the good team is exactly how you make positive changes. You can't make positive changes by turning your country into a hellscape. You can't change them with a third party. So how are you going to change them? You pick the party of 2 that is closest to you, and you change them from within.