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Little traumatized by all these hashtags until I realized they’re Fediverse native.
Neat.
Anyway, in general, I would not buy a “Linux” laptop. You tend to pay a huge tax and get old hardware anyway, with major components no different from bigger OEMs.
They’re usually rebranded Clevo whitebooks.
I can possibly recommend something more specific based on your needs. Like, what are you using the laptop for, what size do you want, and what’s your budget?
@brucethemoose hi
Thanks. I once installed various distros on Huawei notebook and it was not a very good experience. The hardware was exceptionally great. I know how to create a USB installer, etc.
I would want it mainly for normal stuff like surfing the net or creating some presentations and showing them. Nothing in particular, for example, nothing AI related. I do not want to daily open the terminal and add some cryptic commands. sudo apt update & sudo apt upgrade
From the UI perspective, I really like PopOS. I have a strong focus on privacy and the canonical telemetry I can disable. I would want my data to be encrypted, but I don't want to read about luks etc. It should just work.
I would want it to be very portable, sort of like a MacBook Air.
I'm coming from a Mac OS background.
Yeah I realized I either misread or posted to the wrong thread. It appears you want help with PopOS not a new laptop. Sorry, heh.
Or… do you want a new laptop
@brucethemoose I am considering a Framework if not a preconfigured such as slim book or tuxedo
Well I undeleted my message, but basically I would avoid “preconfigured” Linux laptops, as they are mostly Clevo laptops with questionable quality and a huge markup.
Installing it yourself is very easy.
Framework is the exception, they make good stuff; albeit not the fastest stuff out there.
And I’d seriously look at the base Asus Z13 if you want a 13” and can afford it. Its display is sick, is so fast you won’t need to replace it for a long time, the internal hardware/cooling is crazy, and it has great Linux community around it.
@brucethemoose thanks. I looked it up. I can see various notebooks called Asus Z13,, gaming, ROG etc.
Price should be around 1500€, max 2000€.
Which Linux would you recommend for this machine?
What about Dell XPS ?
Ahh. Sorry, I have no idea how to shop in Europe (everything I look up redirects me to UK stores), but forums suggest both the HP g1a and Asus Z13 are available for 2000 Euros:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FlowZ13/comments/1maxrht/flowz13_ai_max_395_for_2500_euro_or_ai_max_390/
...The way I see it, you have sane choices:
Pay for an expensive laptop with some AMD AI Max chip, anything in the series, as these are the only laptops worth paying so much for: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-AI-Max-PRO-380-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.944131.0.html
Otherwise, save your money and get a Framework 13, or something in the Framework 13 price range. Then earmark that saved cash to upgrade it sooner.
Otherwise, in my opinion, there's really no point in paying 1750€+ for laptop with a cheap CPU in it.