Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

saying israel controls the US

I also wanna note ive never even characterized it like this, i've been pushing back on the seeming idea that there's NO INFLUENCE AT ALL, WHATSOEVER, which seems really hard to believe when we're literally discussing it because of the existence of a PAC that exists for the express purpose of influencing American politics, and this is like the above board influencing project that is KNOWN about. The country that sent thousands of explosive pagers to do a terror attack isn't going to even attempt to influence its "liege" state to keep giving it whatever the fuck it wants? It's easy enough to just throw your hands up and be like "well the U.S. is just going to give them whatever they want anyway" but that isn't really exactly a stellar analysis and it's just the result of thinking "well, it's the unsinkable aircraft carrier, america NEEDS it" and terminating thought there. Great job you really solved it! i-love-not-thinking

P.s. regarding AIPAC i noted in another comment bemoaning associating them with being foreign that their literal fucking name emphasizes their being Israeli first, it's "American Israeli" not the "Israeli american" PAC. That's a choice. It's like how calling the CPC the "chinese communist party" tries to paint them as a Han nationalist thing whereas the "Communist Party of China" doesn't.