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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 207 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (163 children)

Dumb. Federation is how we escape from every cloud-based service being a dictatorship of the person who owns the platform. That includes federating with privately own orgs to provide them an exit.

By all means make good tools to allow individual users to block Threads (or other private instances ruled by amoral coporations), but doing it at instance level is just dumb.

edit: also, number of instances doesn't matter. Number of daily active users matters. Most users are on mastodon.social, mastodon.cloud, lemmy.world, hachyderm.io, lemmy.world, etc. And all of those are federating. The only large instance that is not federating with threads is mas.to

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 170 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (27 children)

What I hate to see, even in this thread, is people turning on each other in this "us vs. them", "you're either a part of the pact or you're against us" nonsense

Let's all remember why WE ALL CHOSE to get on the fediverse and build it. The strength of the fediverse comes from the freedom for each instance to choose how to run things. My understanding is that no one in an instance is harmed if some other instance chooses to federate or defederate from Threads.

I hate Meta. I also know that Meta doesn't need to do anything to take down the fediverse if we do it ourselves.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not personally in favor of preemptively blocking threads on my instance and I don't find the EEE argument at all convincing in this case. But other instances doing that is no problem at all, it's fine!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm also in favor of remaining defeated, but I certainly understand it's a big risk. EEE is a real threat. On the other hand, something like Threads is the fast track to mainstreaming the Fediverse and really advancing us away from dependence on big tech

Big risk, big reward. The deciding factor for me is when on the fence I'd rather be inclusive. Creating a big fight against something I'm a bit skeptical of just isn't worth it.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

You’re only a bit skeptical of Meta?

After all the dodgy shit they’ve done for 20 years and you’re only a bit skeptical?

[–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

If it was literally any other company I'd be much more willing to embrace it.

But Meta? Nah, they're too hellbent on a social media monopoly to consider a good thing.

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