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The highschool I went to 10-12th for allowed phones and the policy was up to each teacher. Some wanted them in a basket at the start of class, some said if they see it out and it's not an emergency they'd take it, and most were just expecting you to self regulate and not use it during lectures.
That worked. If they were up at the front talking, don't be dicking around on your phone, but then when it was pencil on paper time or reading time, you could use it to listen to music or text/etc as long as your work go lt done and your grades kept up. Hell, phones were encouraged to look things up for essays or used as replacement for an expensive graphing calculator, and kahoot was a big thing too.
I'd say 90% of 10-12th aged teens are fine self regulating within rules that treat them less like prisoners and more like young adults. There are the 10% that cant, yeah, but the rules for the 100% shouldn't be made because 10% can't self regulate.
The highschool I went to for 9th and every school I went to before that banned phones and mp3 players. Guess what we all had anyways? Are the teachers supposed to do extra work to ensure no teen had a cell phone? I even remember we had a whole assembly about it where the principal said something along the lines of "we know alot of parents want one on their kids for emergencies, but it's against policy". That's ridiculous.
Unfortunately that's hard to avoid, because those 10% will disturb lessons and take up the teacher's attention, thereby negatively affecting the other students.
It's way easier for a teacher to take away a phone that disturbs a lesson when there are not supposed to be phones in the first place, than have to argue about exceptions and limits to the rules every time.
I agree and sympathise with your overall philosophy, but I'm also conscious of the practical limits, unfortunately.
Okay but in my school, they could already just take your phone if they wanted, their class their rules, no argument needed, but in the other school I went to it was like they were expected to.dig through kids backpacks and have them empty their pockets to find their phones they didn't even have out
Yeah the latter definitely sounds excessive. As for "no argument needed", I can tell you that even if no argument is needed, that doesn't mean that students won't go for one :P