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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago (24 children)

Isn't that a good thing?

I don't know about you, but I don't really care what the views of the owners of a business are. It only becomes a problem if they make those views plain.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Wow I guess if you have to scroll all the way to the fifth whole link it can't possibly be plain, can it?

Sure the business owner thinks anyone who isn't white doesn't count as a person, but he only uses the resources you give him to promote that point of view as a hobby, so why worry?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know, was it a personal blog, some social media post, or a page on the company's website? You didn't specify, and I honestly don't care enough to try to replicate your search.

If they're able to separate personal views from how they run their company, it shouldn't really matter what those views are.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's literally in the post you're responding to. I didn't do any external research other than read the thread.

This is the part I'm talking about:

i do want to point out how hard it is to even find out about the views of these people

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even looking up the name of David Heinemeier Hansson, the more vocally bad of these, i had to go to the 5th link to find anything even vaguely mentioning his views

You are not the person I originally responded to, how would you know they were referencing the OP? There aren't even 5 links in the article, and if we count the embedded X posts, the fifth link is about Hyprland. I'm pretty sure that's not what the OP is referring to.

The OP's point is that it's hard to find info on these people's views, and the links in the OP are from other people doing that digging. As in, we likely wouldn't know their views if these bloggers didn't dig through posts looking for it.

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