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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (7 children)

i dont think framework is big enough to factcheck every linux maniac

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah I don't think you get how this works. They had time to research the tool they are recommending but literally nothing about the backers or community? Framework will absolutely have a legal team whose job would include vetting these orgs.

But let's say you're right and framework is operating a company with no legal counsel (which is also a giant red flag): their response was "we are chill with terrible people in our space, we have a big tent". Not "you're right, we didn't do research on these guys thanks for bringing it to our attention we'll do some research". If they said that, this wouldn't be a thing. Instead, they said affirmatively "we don't care if they are white nationalists, we want to include white nationalists in our tent".

[–] kepix@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

...a legal team checking out linux forums and discord servers for anti trans actions...you ok buddy?

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Before they invest money? Yes

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lesson learned: don't support open source projects. One apparently has to get legal, pr, and a whole investigation (on an ongoing basis!) for every project. Better and cheaper to just not.

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