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[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I know that's what the news told us every day for years and years on end, but more people voted for Corbyn in 2019 (10.2 million) than Starmer in 2024 (9.7 million), and Starmer ended up PM with half a million fewer votes than Corbyn got. The difference between the two elections was that in the latter, the Tories got fewer votes.

If Starmer was electable, so was Corbyn.

[Edit] Also, Corbyn got 12.8 million votes in 2017, that's 3.1 million more people voting for the "unelectable" man, than the apparently "electable" man.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Corbyn led Labour to their worst electoral defeat since the 1930s. What is performant in one election doesn’t translate to another. This is the crux of how ridiculous Corbyn’s “winning the argument” claim was.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

So the press likes to tell us every day. I'd really think it was more down to the fact that a lot of people actually thought Boris Johnston was a good idea at the time (in the 2019 election) - compared to in 2024, when a lot of Tories/Undecideds (for a variety of reasons) voted for the UKIPs instead.

If you'd put Keir in the 2019 election, he would have done even worse.

These are first-past-the-post problems really, and problems of how boundaries are drawn.

Anyway, it's all theoretical anyway - as you say, it's hard to compare one election to another in this way - and it won't change anything, we've got a right-wing Labour Prime Minister for a few years, whether we like it or not.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So your argument to explain Corbyn’s historic loss is…. The entire country temporarily went insane?

Jezza, is this you?

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 1 points 18 hours ago

Hahaha, I guess you must be Keir then.

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