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When the Constitution was written if you had land you could vote, it did not matter if it was a million Acres or a half an acre. You each got one vote. Also there really were very few manufacturing workers, like 90% was in agriculture.
Now you want to talk about the failings of the western governments go ahead, I am the first to bring those up. But it would be a whole lot worse with a one-party state. A lot worse. We have different groups of people and deep divisions within our groups and the worst people in the country in charge. At least some of these other large autocracies have a smart person in charge evil and ruthless though they may be. We have evil ruthless and utterly malicious. Nihilistic. We are not starting with Octavian caesar, but with caracalla.
Now if you think Western governments are worse towards their citizens than Eastern ones I would straight up disagree. Due to honest elections we have extracted more from lawmakers than an autocrat who's only fear would be a bloody Revolution.
That was my point.
Ah yes, fuck my anecdote and the epidemic of failed urban housing in ghettoes around America. "Fucking stupid liberal commie. You totally are lying about how poor you were." Everyone in America is rich, right?
I thought you guys were particularly aggressive politically correct libs in the us here when arguing until someone enlightened me.
Yes america is fucked and has been. Npt ever.perfect but was better for a few decades from post war years to the 70s, when the business round table made a long game to cooperatively take away all of the gains of the new deal and labor movement.
Because of social concessions made to the proletariat in the imperialistic West due to encroaching global revolution. History played out differently.
Yeah that is true. I always preffered huey long myself over roosevelt.
We do not have that fear of workers revolting now that is the problem, only the far right is running as reform with left parties seized by aristocratic conservatives.
Hopefully you guys do not support that, this far right. Doing the world a great disservice if so, and any rationalizations for it will not pan out. Ie accelerationists will not see something better after collapse with our current environment. Seeing the west fall to fascists will see the subjugation of less developed countries to higher degrees, collapses of freedoms and prosperity worldwide, such as they are.