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ok, but, does ActivityPub have portable identity and/or content addressability yet, so that when some of those servers (which are often hobbyist-run and/or tenuously funded) inevitably cease operating their users can continue on a different server? π
It's a rhetorical question, and the answer is no.
otoh, atproto's PLC DID method is also not really decentralized... but at least the rest of their system is actually substantially more decentralized architecturally than AP is.
To anyone interested in reading a very informative in-depth discussion of this topic, I recommend the blog post How decentralized is Bluesky really? by ActivityPub co-author Christine Lemmer-Webber (followed by this and this).
So like when bluesky starts having to pay back their investors I can portable my identity to.... one of the other equally populated blueskies out there?
Yes. That's the idea.
A meaningless "idea". Might as well say BlueSky has "concepts of a plan".
There are already "other Blueskies" out there, and you can already port your identity to them.
However, most users haven't, and most users are not motivated to do so. Thus, OP created a website.
We're counting hypotheticals as real now? I suppose your not-hypothetical girlfriend goes to another school too, right? Just not motivated to visit?
As you're no doubt aware, the reason 99.9% of bluesky users are on a single server is obviously not because "nobody is motivated" to create other servers.
I'm gay.
I'm sorry your credibility is at zero with me. You keep avoiding the point.
At no point in this conversation did I ever rely on my own credibility to make an argument.
More avoidance. You astroturfing?
Iβm literally just a guy
ok and bluesky is literally centralized
Ok but itβs federated.
I'm just going to respond to what you said before you edited your comment to be a reaction gif.
Since (as of November of last year) a majority of Bluesky's user base is non-technical, they have don't have the knowledge or motivation to switch to another PDS. If 30 million users joined mastodon.social, the fediverse would also be centralized.
The only way for Bluesky to be decentralized by the metrics you use is for them to force users onto other PDSes.
No, please respond to the gif. If my grandmother had wheels, would she be a wagon?
BlueSky is centralized. Describing it as "federated" is being (intentionally, in your case) misleading.
I donβt know what the point of the gif is, so Iβm not going to respond to it.
Is Matrix federated? Thatβs also centralized
If a grandmother had wheels would you consider her to be a wagon?
I donβt care
BlueSky is centralized.